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Old March 4th, 2011, 11:33 PM
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fuse panel connectors

i want to put some additions into my main fuse panel, but none of my female connectors fit, to include the carlings. clearly land rover didnt use a common size in the US. any of you restoration guys know the size or have a good online source you can recommend?
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Old March 5th, 2011, 01:06 AM
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Mark, I tried finding those myself and had no luck with the exception of buying a fuse block kit from RDS. You can try these guys as I believe they will have them.

http://www.autosparks.co.uk/product_...oducts_id=1272

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Old March 5th, 2011, 08:16 PM
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just found them at RN via google search!

http://www.roversnorth.com/store/p-1...-defender.aspx
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Old March 6th, 2011, 11:10 AM
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just found them at RN via google search!

http://www.roversnorth.com/store/p-1...-defender.aspx

That picture on RN looks like a standard Lucar type terminal, which isn't correct for the blade fusebox.


They correct terminals are available from Land Rover -

STC4034 - Connector to fit 0.5 - 1.0mm2 cable

STC4035 - Connector to fit 1.1 - 2.0mm2 cable

STC4036 - Connector to fit 2.5 - 3.0mm2 cable


Mind, they're expensive


I recently took some pictures, for a member on another forum, of the terminals and how to remove them from the fuse box -


























I've found these terminals at a UK supplier that look very similar -

http://polevolt.co.uk/acatalog/info_FBS1U_66.html


The terminals are available seperately, as Part No. 3-4647

Here, near the bottom of the page -
http://www.polevolt.co.uk/acatalog/S...e_Holders.html



I'll be adding some to my next order from Polevolt, to see if they'll fit the TD5 fusebox.

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Old March 6th, 2011, 08:55 PM
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Excellent info! I almost purchased a batch from RN, so good timing. Unfortunately polevolt doesn't ship outside uk. any idea where i can get them from someone that does?
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Old March 6th, 2011, 09:16 PM
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Excellent info! I almost purchased a batch from RN, so good timing. Unfortunately polevolt doesn't ship outside uk. any idea where i can get them from someone that does?

That's a shame, I didn't realise that Polevolt were UK only, I don't know of anywhere else selling a comparable terminal.


The Genuine terminals - STC4034, STC4035 & STC4036 - should be available through a Land Rover Dealer, but they're stupidly expensive, especially the terminals for the smaller cable sizes

L.R.Series in the UK, ship to the US and list the genuine (or 'replacement') terminals on their site -


STC4034 - http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product...CONNECTOR.html

STC4035 - http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product...CONNECTOR.html

STC4036 - http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product...CONNECTOR.html



This UK company are selling STC4036, they have a picture of one on their website -

http://shop.dingocroft.co.uk/acatalo....html#aSTC4036


It doesn't look anything like the terminals in my 1999 TD5 fusebox, or the picture on RN's website

It might be worth popping a terminal out of your fusebox to see what they look like.

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Winzer sells these type of connectors to the automotive industry. I buy them local sometimes but do not have any on hand now.
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that's a good lead Jim. can you get a winzer part number from your store? i can chase down sources from there.
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No store it is a mobil parts sales company here. They stock shelves with parts at dealerships. Many different items. Electrical is something they stand out for. A good sales man will match that part from his catalouge for you. Just meet him on his route one day.


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that's a good lead Jim. can you get a winzer part number from your store? i can chase down sources from there.
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As an update for all, I pulled my panel today and pulled an OEM connector (red wire) as well as created an RN connector part wire (yellow wire). I can confirm the RN is wrong; it is too short and wide.

Still looking for the right part for my panel, as the part no's Paul provided don't look like mine at all (must be later year model).

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Rovers North appears to have the connectors that look exactly like my connectors in this combined repair kit for rewiring. I'm going to call and see if they sell the individual connectors.

http://www.roversdownsouth.com/defender-electrical.htm
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Your fusebox terminal and the ones with RN's repair kit, look exactly like the ones Dingocroft list in my earlier link -

http://www.dingocroft.co.uk/acatalog....html#aSTC4036

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Completely missed that, thanks!
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http://www.autosparks.co.uk/ for all your British wiring needs.
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Installed the dingocroft connectors yesterday and they were a perfect fit.
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I have a fuse holder that doesn't hold the fuse properly causing my rear defrost to work intermittently. Has anyone figured out which terminal will work. I have also found three wires near the fuse block panel that are not used two are identical with female pin type connectors the other is a spade type female connector. I will get photos tomorrow. Everything works on the truck, other than a little feedback from the headlight in the stereo its 100% in the electrical department.
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Did you replace the panel as well? Is there an upgrade available for the fuse panel? I mean, are the autosparks and polevault offerings in any way improvement over stock or at they identical replacements? I have some loose connection in there somewhere. Sometimes I have to push the panel to get the dash lights to turn on.

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Old December 30th, 2011, 09:19 PM
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Installed the dingocroft connectors yesterday and they were a perfect fit.

Glad you got there in the end


So, it's worth checking exactly what type of terminal your blade fuse box uses before ordering spares.

The strange elongated spade receptacle terminals - STC4034, STC4035, STC4036 - are for the earlier type of blade fuse boxes (from 200Tdi -> ???)

and the terminals that are similar to an AMP/Tyco 'Junior Timer' terminal are for the later type of blade fuse boxes (TD5 and PUMA)


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Did you replace the panel as well? Is there an upgrade available for the fuse panel? I mean, are the autosparks and polevault offerings in any way improvement over stock or at they identical replacements? I have some loose connection in there somewhere. Sometimes I have to push the panel to get the dash lights to turn on.

That may not be the fuses.

I had a similar problem with auxiliary lights that I fitted to my 110.

I'd mounted the relays to the fuse panel and used the panel to earth the relay's coils.

Doing this, relies on the fuse panel's mounting screws for the earth path, which is not a very good earth.

I found that adding an earth wire from the fuse panel to an earth point behind the instruments, solved all my problems with relays working intermittently.


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20-Way Blade Fusebox & Terminals

An update to this thread:


There's a seller on eBay UK, selling the Lucas-RISTS 20-Way Blade Fusebox & Terminals.

This is PRC4826 - with 40 x terminals

£6.50 (GBP)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140844488407

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http://www.autosparks.co.uk/ for all your British wiring needs.

Or the US affiliate, britishwiring.com

They can order anything on the autosparks website.

But Austosparks lists the 20-way fuse block @ 2x the price listed above. Interesting....
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