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Old November 17th, 2007, 07:50 PM
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True, but you can't get matching gauges for the other spots that will fit can you? Once you have one, you need the rest as the stock gauges look like crap afterwards. And the VDO Vision series will fill all the spots and more. Plus they are much cheaper.

The bounce is no problem. Like I say, the range is better than stock, so that is good enough.
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Old November 18th, 2007, 12:53 AM
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Cool John - good find. Now I'm going to swap out my fuel guages - thanks!
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Jim, how does the VDO fuel gauge work with the 95 NAS sender?
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I dunno, I never got around to the swap!
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My fuel meter accuracy is spotty at best. I've already replaced my speedo and tach with VDO Vision gauges so I figured it's time to swap out the fuel gauge too.

Summit Racing has the VDO Vision 301105 (2 1/16inch) for $25.44 so no problem there. The gauge reads 240-33 ohms which differs from what I gather the stock sender puts out 19-270 ohms. I would like to get as accurate a read a possible so I want to replace the sender too. Bosch and others sell 240-33 ohm level arm senders. Example of a $20 sender.

Before I order I was hoping someone on this thread might help me understand the OEM sender wiring. There are 2 wires on the stock sender (presumably 1 live + 1 ground) vs just 1 wire on all of the universal senders I've found including the Bosch sender linked above.

The OEM sender is attached to the fuel pipe, so I would need to modify any after-market sender to mount onto the round fuel pipe. This should not be too difficult, but I need to understand the wiring requirements. Can anyone help? Thanks
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The stock senders work perfectly with the 240-33 ohms gauge. I've put them in multiple trucks and the range of the gauge is just right for the Land Rover senders.
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The stock senders work perfectly with the 240-33 ohms gauge. I've put them in multiple trucks and the range of the gauge is just right for the Land Rover senders.
Red90 - That's great news and would certainly make my life easier. Just to be clear, the wider ohm range on the stock sender does not result in the gauge reporting full for longer or empty sooner? I assumed that if the stock sender puts out 38 ohms at 3/4 tank it would basically be showing as full (33 ohms) on the VDO vision gauge. Similarly, if the stock sender puts out 240 ohms at ~1/8th of a tank would the VDO gauge not read empty? I'm less worried about reporting empty early, but I'm trying to avoid the gauge reading full until I get to 3/4s of a tank and then dropping quickly to empty.
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The 270 and 33 is the E and F lines (not the total range of the gauge), which is pretty close to the same as the stock gauge.

The senders themselves have a wider range. Part of that is seen with the needle moving above and below the E and F lines and part is unused range as the float hits the bottom and top of the tank.

In any case, the range of the VDO matches the stock gauge well. When you run empty, the needle will continue past the E line and hit the stop before you run out of fuel. It will start to move from the upper stop as soon as the float starts to drop.
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Perfect - Ordering the stock sender and VDO Vision gauge now. Thanks!
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Fwiw, I recently had the malfunctioning-from-my-purchase stock gas gauge on my '84 changed out for a VDO Vision without changing out the sender. My mechanic seemed 100% skeptical that changing out the gauge alone would fix the issue but it definitely did. I got it home & drained the fuel tank to check the reading & refilled the tank with a series of volumes & everything checked out. Good readings on that next fillup too. YMMV.
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Another +1 for VDO Vision + stock sender. The only "annoyance" is when the fuel sloshes on a partially empty tank, the gauge reacts to that and goes up and down. There isn't a damper built in to hide what is actually going on like many OEM fuel gauges have.
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Fwiw, I recently had the malfunctioning-from-my-purchase stock gas gauge on my '84 changed out for a VDO Vision without changing out the sender. My mechanic seemed 100% skeptical that changing out the gauge alone would fix the issue but it definitely did. I got it home & drained the fuel tank to check the reading & refilled the tank with a series of volumes & everything checked out. Good readings on that next fillup too. YMMV.
Since the sender and gauge are from different suppliers, maybe I will order just the gauge first and see if I get lucky!


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Another +1 for VDO Vision + stock sender. The only "annoyance" is when the fuel sloshes on a partially empty tank, the gauge reacts to that and goes up and down. There isn't a damper built in to hide what is actually going on like many OEM fuel gauges have.
Agree - The sloshing / bouncing is unwelcome. Is the damper an electronic feature of most gauges or something built into the sender itself?
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Agree - The sloshing / bouncing is unwelcome. Is the damper an electronic feature of most gauges or something built into the sender itself?
I imagine the gauge, but that is only a guess. This is the only aftermarket fuel gauge I have installed.
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The damping is in the gauge and as you've seen, not all have it.

Also, there is no getting lucky. Any 240 ohms empty to 33 ohms full will work. I prefer Autometer, but any gauge with this range will work.
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I have a surplus TD5 fuel gauge if anyone needs one, PM me for details.

Works with the stock sender and has some dampening
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