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Old April 12th, 2004, 12:51 AM
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Front Bumper Shackle

I couldnt find it using the "excellent" search feature of the BB ()... I was trying to find the front bumper shackle that mounts with a single bolt and pivots on that bolt. I think CVC has one.

I know they're inherently not as strong as a four-bolt or welded install, but if you put a backer plate behind it, is that "strong enough" for most applications? I mean I'm not hanging the truck from under a helicopter or anything...
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Old April 12th, 2004, 10:35 AM
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Ken;

Are you looking for the type on my front bumper? If so they are manufacturered by Actek. I forget who I purchased mine from but I can find out. They make them in several different materials. I have a catalog with all their products.

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Old April 12th, 2004, 12:00 PM
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The Actek site (www.actekmfg.com) shows one made in Aircraft Quality 4140 and Stainless. For a 5/8" bolt, 4140 has a 4000# load rating and SS has a 2000# load rating.
What would you think to be the appropriate requirement for a recovery point?
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Old April 12th, 2004, 12:11 PM
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Ken;

I considered the stainless versions myself. The cost was a bit unreasonable I thought. They make a few different finishes. I went with the standard black. If you do decide to go with the stainless I would get the 4140. The last thing you want is to be out winching and have the thing let go. Then you'll be wishing you had spent the extra coin. I will check and see what size I used as well. I will try and get to my shop tonight and find out for you.

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Old April 12th, 2004, 12:14 PM
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I think the jate rings are also an excellent alternative
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Old April 12th, 2004, 12:36 PM
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I have the military grade ones that I think you are talking about. I would be willing to sell them if anybody is interested. If so, let me know and I will put them in for sale with a picture.
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Old April 12th, 2004, 02:40 PM
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Ken have you seen these ? they are rated at 3 tons.
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Old April 12th, 2004, 03:48 PM
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If the vehicle weighs around 3,500lbs than I would think 2,000lbs is way to lite and 4,000lbs is pushing it also... I wouldn't want to be standing anywhere near a truck that was being pulled out with that lite of a recovery point. Aren't the warn shackles that fit in the hitch receiver about 8,000lbs????
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Old April 12th, 2004, 04:22 PM
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Ken If you are staying with actekmfg then I would suggest these as they are rated Higer with smaller bolts. I think the 8,000 or 10,000 should be good with a good backing plate.

Ken any Idea of the cost of those things? I was thinking of getting some of these .
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I suppose this ends up being an engineering question. It certainly seems to simple-minded me that four (albeit smaller) bolts for the SMB would be much stronger than the single (larger) bolt for the shackle I showed. And if you're talking about welded on shackle mounts as Rockware does... well, you're well out of my league there. Would one consider a welded bracket to be that much stronger than a bolted bracket?

And more importantly, how much is enough?

As for you Mike, you always seem to find 'em bigger and better. That's a beefy mount! Put one of those jaws on the front of your truck and you'll be ready to pull down a barn! . Kidding aside, the weakest point would be the same as the SMBs, at the 4 mounting bolts. Next of course would be where the bumper attaches to the frame. I'm not so sure I'd like to see you replay the scene in American Graffiti where the cop car drives out of the lot and leaves the axle behind.
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Ken, is this what you're looking for?

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Old April 12th, 2004, 09:59 PM
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Glenn, THAT'S what I remember us talking about! Thanks. Now I'm curious on the tensile strength of that 18mm high grade anodized steel bolt...
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Ken, it's rated at 15 ton.
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Old April 13th, 2004, 01:23 PM
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Just poking around the actekmfg website and I found out there stuff is rated 5 to1 so If it is rated for 2,000 lbs it is meant to handle 10,000 lbs.
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Giampaulo, where do you get that number? I was looking at bolt specs and nothing looked that strong. Certainly not doubting you, just trying to understand.

Are the Scorpion swivels the same as the ones on the actek site? anyone know?
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Correction: 50 ton (UK) is the equivalent to 33,600 lbs (US). Sorry for the mixup. I got the information directly from Scorpion.

As far as I know they are not the same as Actek.

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Old April 13th, 2004, 04:01 PM
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1 ton UK = 2204.62 lbs so 50 tons UK = 110,231 lbs. THat does not sound right.
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You are right Michael, for some reason I said it was 50 tons when it is only 15 tons. Sorry about that.

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AHHH, thats makes sence. I bet it is not 5x rated like the Acteks.
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