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Old May 29th, 2010, 02:13 PM
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How much, if any, movement should be present on the front axel when the brakes are applied? I mean forward and aft not side to side.
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Old May 29th, 2010, 10:02 PM
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Near zero. It should compress on the springs, but it should have no "fore and aft" movement.
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Old May 29th, 2010, 10:43 PM
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Near zero. It should compress on the springs, but it should have no "fore and aft" movement.
Dood,

He means axle wrap if I'm not mistaken. And these trucks have a buttload of it. Especially when the bushings start to wear. If the axle hasn't fallen out from under the truck, your cool.
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No where near like a SOA leaf sprung truck.
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I'm getting enough movement during braking that the track rod is hitting the sleeve intended to protect it. It has been evident since I've had this truck, 4 years, but I am chasing a new wobble and some other vague driveline issues. New pan hard rod bushings made the wobble much better but not perfect. As for the axel moving, it seems to make sense that if the axel is moving around something is going to wobble and effect the driveline. I just have to figure out where the worn bushings are. (I hope it's bushing because they're cheap)
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Do you have a three link? I has the SG tie rod protector on one of my discos and it was very tight fit.
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No, but it is the same protector. After reading your responses and thinking about what happens, it may be the axel wrap. The axel casing kinda rolls forward or backward which causes the flex which causes the tie rod to hit the protector. I don't remember having that movement before on any other Rover, but then I have never had a tie rod protector either.
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My 1996 disco had that and the clearance was basically nil. IIRC it has some ability to be able to be moved forward or backward, if it is properly positioned I would think it could only be the radius arm bushings.
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No where near like a SOA leaf sprung truck.
I'll give you that, depending on the leaf springs your using.

But gentlemen, I have holes cut in my floor and I could watch what the pinion did during breaking and acceleration. I would guess that bitch would wobble over an inch.

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No, but it is the same protector. After reading your responses and thinking about what happens, it may be the axel wrap. The axel casing kinda rolls forward or backward which causes the flex which causes the tie rod to hit the protector. I don't remember having that movement before on any other Rover, but then I have never had a tie rod protector either.
If you replace the radius arm bushings it will help this. Of course, your articulation is directly inverse to the condition of the bushings.
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Old May 31st, 2010, 10:56 PM
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Thanks fellas. Radius arm bushings are next.
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I think of wrap as rotational, not fore and aft. Fore and aft I think of like how a leaf sprung truck compresses and moves back with the shackle on the rear of the front springs. In any event, I am not sure how wrap would cause the issue as, IIRC, the protector is bolted onto the axle housing which should remain static relative to the steering rod.
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Yep, that's the movement I was talking about. Not sure the movement is that extreme, but certainly close. I am going to install some new bushing and see what happens. Thanks for the video.

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