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Old December 7th, 2010, 03:11 PM
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frame swap pointers

I have a 110 double cab coming over the pond and I am eventually going to need to do a frame swap on it... so I am pretty sure that this is done fairly regularly... so I was hoping someone might walk me through the steps for doing so.

It seems to me that if you have a lift, and you can just raise the body and expose the frame and motor, your are WAY ahead of the curve... just a matter of taking parts off the old one and swapping them over... but I am sure I am over simplifying this...

So ... anyone got a step by step? Stuff to look out for?

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Old December 7th, 2010, 03:29 PM
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I think I had a post with some pointers if you search.

Yes, you can just lift up the body and then swap stuff between chassis. This is how ECR, per their website, does it (sometimes).
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Old December 7th, 2010, 09:36 PM
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some time a agoI found a youtube video in timelapse showing one guy doing the whole job!
it was darn cool really. The Vid was like 9 minutes long. I'll look for it!

Part 1
part 2

the high speed makes it look simple
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This is how ECR, per their website, does it (sometimes).
Although you will notice most of the time the body gets disassembled post removal.

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Although you will notice most of the time the body gets disassembled post removal.
Actually, that is not the case here.

If we do a frame swap that means that 9 times out of 10 the body stays complete. Frame swaps are usually just that, just swapping in a new frame. Most of those customers do not want paint work or other more serious work, so the body stays complete with only the hood and center grill coming off, with no further body tear down after the fact.
See examples as per the web site.
http://www.eastcoastrover.com/230.html
http://www.eastcoastrover.com/218.html
http://www.eastcoastrover.com/150.html
http://www.eastcoastrover.com/207.html
http://www.eastcoastrover.com/99.html
http://www.eastcoastrover.com/81.html

The trucks we take apart for restoration are taken apart and rebuilt on a new frame without doing the lift/swap because we have to paint everything apart. We may take the body off in the lft to save time and money, but we don't put it back on until it is painted part by part.
http://www.eastcoastrover.com/156.html
http://www.eastcoastrover.com/94.html

Only in a few rare cases of serious accident damage, where the customer does not want restoration style work does it happen that it will be more efficient to do a "swap" and then work on the body damage after the body is sitting on a new frame. We do it that way because it saves time and therefore saves the customer money. Like this:
http://www.eastcoastrover.com/810.html

but that is about the only frame "swap" that we have completed the swap and then taken the body part after on that I can remember.

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I have a 110 double cab coming over the pond and I am eventually going to need to do a frame swap on it... so I am pretty sure that this is done fairly regularly... so I was hoping someone might walk me through the steps for doing so.

It seems to me that if you have a lift, and you can just raise the body and expose the frame and motor, your are WAY ahead of the curve... just a matter of taking parts off the old one and swapping them over... but I am sure I am over simplifying this...

So ... anyone got a step by step? Stuff to look out for?

thanks
Something to get lined up to save down time are the little clips and such for lines, and have a look at your fuel lines and brake lines to see if you think you can get them (the fittings) apart. Same thing in regards to the exhaust. Things like the clips are small, but can hold up the project if you have to order them (if you plan to use them). Needing a new exhaust will also slow things down, so have a good honest look under the truck and see what you think will not come apart and be sure to have those pieces on hand, otherwise it can mean long delays. Also doing motor mounts and a clutch at the time of a swap is really smart because everything is right there and easy to access.
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Those videos are pretty cool for sure...

So, how difficult is it to just pull the body off ... what are the steps for doing that?

Exhaust is new on the rig, and I don't know about the brakes etc... will have to look at it when it arrives.

Thanks for the GREAT response ECR...

------ Follow up post added December 8th, 2010 10:41 AM ------

It would be great if someone sold a hardware "kit" for doing frame swaps... so you buy a frame, and then a hardware kit per the swap you doing... then you aren't making all the runs to replace bolts etc... Just a though...

------ Follow up post added December 8th, 2010 11:11 AM ------

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