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Old June 22nd, 2010, 03:53 PM
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Frame Front Bumper Nubs

Just got a Rockware front bumper (looks sweet!) in and about to install it. The frame has nubs that stick out on each end. The ARB I had on before covered them but they can be seen with the Rockware.

So people with Rockware - did you cut them off? http://longhornoffroad.com/pages/wri...%20Install.htm or leave them: http://www.eastcoastrover.com/211/20.jpg

Also, is it recommended to put a little grease in between the bumper tabs for installation? Or would that just collect dirt and make things worse?

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Old June 22nd, 2010, 03:58 PM
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I say cut'm off.

Once the Rockware is on there they serve no purpose, and they really don't serve much purpose anyway. They are a left over from a UK jack set up that NAS trucks didn't have and don't use anyway.
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 04:23 PM
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The grease might help so you don't have to beat on your nice new bumper (quite as much). The two Rockware's I've had (d90 and Rangie) were extremely tight fits.
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 05:20 PM
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Thanks guys. I just got it back from my powder guy and it almost looks too good to run - almost!

ECR Mike - yeah, the nubs just look in the way with the Rockware on the front. Good to know they don't serve any purpose before I cut away. Looking at the bumper mounted I'm going to angle the cut to match a bit with the angle of the Rockware tab.

Jeff/Gore - mine slid on but I'm going to smear a dab of great when I go to final install. I'll post some pics when it's all on.
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 06:22 PM
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I like the nubs. Also, they overlap the frame so I would not cut them off as it will be a bit of a project and won't look clean when you are done without a lot of effort. Also, hi-lift makes an adaptor to jack in those holes.
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 07:26 PM
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Mine were already cut off by the PO for some other bumper. Have never missed them though.
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, hi-lift makes an adaptor to jack in those holes.
If you have a beefy bumper like a Rockware (that you can put a Hi-Lift on just about anywhere on it) why would you want the cheese-ball Hi-lift adapter thingys?
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If you have a beefy bumper like a Rockware (that you can put a Hi-Lift on just about anywhere on it) why would you want the cheese-ball Hi-lift adapter thingys?
Because if you try to jack on a bumper without a receiver offroad and you are on an angle, the jack can slip (been there, done that). It also messes up the powdercoat.
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Old June 22nd, 2010, 11:29 PM
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Because if you try to jack on a bumper without a receiver offroad and you are on an angle, the jack can slip (been there, done that). It also messes up the powdercoat.
Dammit - I had the Milwalkee angle grinder all set up ready to cut - then I thought - let me get out the Hi-Lift and see how it will line up on the Rockware. I have to say with the winch mount there is a limited amount of room to get the Hi-Lift in to grab the bumper nicely. I don't have an adapter but looking at some of the pics of them (http://www.expeditionexchange.com/hilift/DSC03691.jpg) it looks like with it, I would clear the Rockware and then fit pretty good in the nub hole. You have a good point on on jacking it when it's at an angle and having the jack slip.

Then again, after 2 years I haven't used the Hi-Lift save for putting in the OME springs.

So, IDK, I'll sleep on it and then check it out more tomorrow. I could always throw it on and see what the clearance is on the next off road trip. Why is it the little stuff, that I split hairs on?
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They don't hurt anything on there and you can always cut them off later. Also, I think people would wonder why they were gone if you ever (GASP!) sell the truck.
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They don't hurt anything on there and you can always cut them off later. Also, I think people would wonder why they were gone if you ever (GASP!) sell the truck.

You might also run into identity problems with the authorities - the VIN is stamped into the outer face of the RH side jacking point -

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Paul the bit we are taking about cutting off affects neither.
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I had to cut mine off to install the SG brush bar... I kept them in case I ever wanted to weld them back on or so I could sell the to Ron as coasters.
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Paul the bit we are taking about cutting off affects neither.

Ahh..., I'd thought the discussion was suggesting complete removal, flush - back the the main chassis rails

Having now looked at http://longhornoffroad.com/pages/wri...%20Install.htm I can see how much metal is being referred to.

I would say that the amount in question is no great loss, but if I was doing this mod, I would weld a closing plate over the open 'mud scoop' that it creates.


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I'm undecided if closing it is a good idea. It sounds like a good idea to stop dirt getting in, but it then creates a point to trap dirt too (dirt can ingress through the bumper mounting holes).

That said, the stock frame traps dirt there already
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Old June 30th, 2010, 12:01 PM
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I still have mine. It does take a litlle away from departure.

Charles is right on my 95 the horn end rusted because of debris trapped in the frame horn.

you can always cut them off and weld them back later if you miss them.
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