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Old August 29th, 2016, 12:22 PM
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Flood damaged 90... what could go wrong?

Hello,
I'm in the market for a NAS Defender 90. A flood damaged and restored 97 was recently posted on Ebay. I would never consider a flood damaged car for a traditional vehicle, but given the seemingly relative simplicity of Defenders and my limited budget, I'm willing to consider it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Land-Rover-D...-/201655300257

The engine has been replaced with a 300tdi and the automatic has been replaced with an r380 5 speed.

It seems like a nice restoration, but can a flood damaged Defender really ever be restored? Any suggestions on what to look out for? Feel free to talk me out of it!

Thank you!
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Old August 29th, 2016, 12:29 PM
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Built to ford rivers. Difference between buying this truck or a pristine NAS and driving through a stream after the fact? Not much, except this one would fare better on the galvi-chassis ;-)

I would buy it in a heartbeat with that kind of documented restoration. All of the concerns seem to have been addressed and it's got all the right goodies.

It's not going to be a retirement investment with a branded title, but it would be a seriously great truck, as built for the money, and a lot of fun and trouble free enjoyment for the owner.
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Old August 29th, 2016, 12:30 PM
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plenty of folks have drowned their NAS trucks just going offroad and they live to fight another day..If you are ok with rebuilt title this truck looks like its solid. My guess based on the PA plate and MV location is that this is owned by a board member and built to flip. May want to ask who did the restoration and ask for photos of the rebuild.
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Old August 29th, 2016, 12:41 PM
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Old August 29th, 2016, 12:44 PM
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Truck was recently sold, and the current seller reposted the truck for sale in the original thread. Search in that section to find the truck.

See as it was fully rebuilt, "flood damage" wont really be relevant to vehicle anymore, but none-the-less it is a good idea to inspect/have the vehicle inspected.
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Old August 29th, 2016, 12:49 PM
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Old August 29th, 2016, 01:08 PM
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Having recently dealt with the seller all I can say is use caution
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Having recently dealt with the seller all I can say is use caution
Really?

The original seller "rayfi" or the reseller "xjahx"?

Derek's build looked very good so I was wondering what the issue was?
Based on the Derek's build, I wouldnt hesitate to own that 90.
Looked solid.


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Old August 29th, 2016, 01:18 PM
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Sorry the reseller. And if you were buying it from Derek I'd say go for it. Buy before doing business with the reseller look at some of the other for sale threads he's been involved in. Personally there were some issues with my sale that didn't sit well. Probably best discussed over pm
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I saw this truck in person just before it was finished. It was fantastic. Would buy.
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Sorry the reseller. And if you were buying it from Derek I'd say go for it. Buy before doing business with the reseller look at some of the other for sale threads he's been involved in. Personally there were some issues with my sale that didn't sit well. Probably best discussed over pm
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Good read starting w/ post #20: http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...-st-61917.html
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Old August 29th, 2016, 02:23 PM
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My truck currently. Has served me well for 6 months almost to the date. The summer season is winding down, and I have other projects to focus on. Derek did an incredible job with ever nut and bolt replaced, everything galvanized that can be, and a first class, panel off paint job.

I had no problem getting the truck reg'ed, inspected, and titled in PA. Diesels are exempt from smog testing in my neck of the woods. Check with your state.

Price on eBay is the price on eBay. Happy to break even here. As for past sales, I buy, use daily, and then move on. Just purchased another clean 93 110 last week which motivated me to list this on eBay, before I store it for the winter. Come take a look.
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Old August 29th, 2016, 02:29 PM
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I saw this truck in person just before it was finished. It was fantastic. Would buy.
I thought it looked familiar! Saw it as well. That is an outstanding truck and extremely well put together.
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Old August 29th, 2016, 02:50 PM
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I'd also want to see the actual PA title. I know the truck I bought from the reseller was never titled by him despite his claims during negotiations. Overall good truck (from what I remember when I saw it in May) but good luck getting a straightforward answer from the reseller here. But best of luck to all involved. Happy to answer any questions via pm
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Old August 29th, 2016, 03:10 PM
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PA title in my name. No brands but carfax appropriately reflects flood history. No duplicates. Proper VIN. Derek had titled in Vermont, and the mileage reflects the known total mileage on the vehicle as confirmed by carfax and as stated as actual - 28,901.

Full picture direct to any buyer, but I do not think it best to include that in a general Flickr post.
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Old August 29th, 2016, 06:12 PM
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so where are the sill panels? Is that bothering anyone other than me?
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Old August 29th, 2016, 06:18 PM
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so where are the sill panels? Is that bothering anyone other than me?
Sill panels suck. This or with sliders is 10x better.
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Sill panels suck. This or with sliders is 10x better.
Sliders for sure, but nothing at all? I guess it just takes getting used to.

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Old August 29th, 2016, 06:26 PM
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Sliders. I have a set from RN. Brand new. I will offer to the buyer.
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