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Old May 5th, 2011, 10:34 PM
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Old May 6th, 2011, 01:38 AM
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Chris, are the front turn signals completely dead or are they flashing fast as if broken? It's hard to say when you throw pre-wired stuff into the mix. I used all superbright LEDs drop-in replacements for front and rear turn signals as well as brake lights and reverse light. I used their relay and resistors on the front turn signals. Front signals worked fine after I added resistors.
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Old May 6th, 2011, 08:02 AM
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Chris,
When I replaced all of my flashers with superbright LED, I had the two load resistors up front as you mention but also had to change out the relay in the fuse panel with a Flasher Relay for LED, (CF13GL-02). I didnt notice in your post if you had changed the relay or not.
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Have you checked the polarity on the front wiring? My tail break lights had reverse polarity so the bulbs wouldn't light up. I had to reverse the wiring in the socket to make them work. Some (or all?) LEDs are polarized so the current can only go one direction or they won't work.
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Chris, I suspect reese is correct led's are polarity sensitive. There is no need to buy our led's if you already have an ecr set, they are the same. Carefully stick a pin from the back of connector and the wire Leeds will slide out. A variable load flasher is needed in all cases and will only work if the truck is in stock form meaning stock bulbs in front and led in rear. I know in this post they have found a way around this by adding the resistor( my hats off to this) but now it would point to a polarity issue, as an LED is nothing more than a diode which is polarity sensitive.
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Our LEDs are pre-wired and each is bench tested before it leaves the shop.
To be 100% sure though, the White wire on the LED must be connected to the Black wire (ground) on the vehicle. Otherwise the polarity is wrong and the LED will not function.

Each LED also has the wiring cast in plastic on the back of it if you have any questions. Each wire color and what it does is written on the back of the LED.
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Old May 6th, 2011, 11:23 AM
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Ok. Thank you for the suggestion. I will add "test polartity" to my next steps.

FYI - I needed the 2 Safari Dust LEDs becuase I wanted 4 LED turn signals. At the time, ECR only sold an LED package to kit the rear of the truck. Fortunatly, I fell upon your site and now I have a complete LED set. Thank you!

Thank you ECR and Safari Dust!

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Ok. Thank you for the suggestion. I will add "test polartity" to my next steps.

FYI - I needed the 2 Safari Dust LEDs becuase I wanted 4 LED turn signals. At the time, ECR only sold an LED package to kit the rear of the truck. Fortunatly, I fell upon your site and now I have a complete LED set. Thank you!

Thank you ECR and Safari Dust!

I will keep you posted.
We only sell the rears because installing all 4 signals is a PITA.

Our kits need to be direct plug and play for most customers and doing 4 is not a simple bolt in, so we do not offer it.
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Polarity was the issue...swapped the two wires in the connector and success!

Thank you all for the troubleshooting help.
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That might be a first. My advice actually helped someone solve a problem.
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That might be a first. My advice actually helped someone solve a problem.
Carl,

I meant to copy your suggestion and lost track, thru my iphone...These screens are sometimes way too small to type correctly and big hands dont help.
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Hey no worries. I think my head got a little bigger from contributing something meaningful to this forum. Usually I'm the one asking a million questions.
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Polarity was the issue...swapped the two wires in the connector and success!

Thank you all for the troubleshooting help.
I think I am having the same issue. Got a bunch of bulbs from superbright and all the fronts do not work but the stock ones work fine. Which connector did you swap the 2 wires on? The one connected to the LED/light or that is wired to the vehicle? If it is the ones from the main harness/vehicle, how on earth did you pop them out of the plug to switch?
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What do you mean by "do not work"? Are they completely dead or do they flash at a faster rate? Did you change the flasher relay and the resistors? The rear work fine without resistors but the front doesn't. If you've done those things you need to reverse the wiring so that the current in the LED goes the opposite direction.
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What do you mean by "do not work"? Are they completely dead or do they flash at a faster rate? Did you change the flasher relay and the resistors? The rear work fine without resistors but the front doesn't. If you've done those things you need to reverse the wiring so that the current in the LED goes the opposite direction.
All the side marker bulbs work, as do all the back lights (I am running Safari Dust LED blinkers in the rear, and bought a Superbright LED bulb for the reverse, Brake/Tail Lights will be Safari Dust LED's in a few weeks). Blinkers work fine, got a new flasher relay for S. Dust.

The front blinkers and running lights do not work at all when I put in the new Superbright LED bulbs in. Swap back the stock bulbs and they are fine. From reading the posts on this thread it sounds like the polarity is the issue and I need to reverse the wiring. My question is do I need to cut and splice the wires or is there a cleaner/more elequent way by popping the clips out. Hope this clears it up - any advice is appreciated.
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There is a cleaner way. I will ask my electrical guy when I see him this weekend. He switched mine but I don't remember how and there's no visual evidence of it.
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There is a cleaner way. I will ask my electrical guy when I see him this weekend. He switched mine but I don't remember how and there's no visual evidence of it.
I would really appreciate it if you found out from him. I'll swap wires but rather not. TIA!
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I wouldn't mess with the wiring. If the stock bulbs work, the LED bulbs should work. If the LEDs don't, then its good chance its a bulb issue. Can you post the bulb id# and the locations that don't work?
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Not true. The bulbs are polarized. My rear stop lights had the wiring reversed for some reason. It must have been stock because I doubt it had been changed by previous owner. There was nothing wrong with the bulbs. We switched the cables around and everything worked just fine.

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I wouldn't mess with the wiring. If the stock bulbs work, the LED bulbs should work. If the LEDs don't, then its good chance its a bulb issue. Can you post the bulb id# and the locations that don't work?
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