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Old December 27th, 2014, 02:13 AM
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Fix for Misaligned Doors?

So, my doors all close well... too well, in fact, they are always slamming!

When standing off, looking at the side of the truck, the doors all line up well. All gaps are pretty even, no sideways strange angles.

But when you get at an acute angle to the side, as if standing at front or rear quarter and looking down the length of the vehicle, the doors are all odd. Some of them stick out 1/4 inch at the hinge edge, some stick out 1/4 inch at the opening edge, some are closer to lining up with the body panels at the bottom, some are closer to lining up at the top.

I'd not be surprised if one or two doors are warped, but it seems like the hinged edge of the door should always close up nice and tight against the body.

What do I need to do to fix this?
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Old December 27th, 2014, 07:04 AM
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Better than mine. Actually my biggest issue is the passenger side fit is off enough to make the door latch a bear to open.
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Old December 27th, 2014, 08:58 AM
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Do your door hinges have the plastic finisher piece under them where they connect to the bulkhead? I don't know if that would make a difference on the angle the hinge puts the door at. Also do your windshield hinges have bolts thru them?

If water isn't coming thru as a result I wouldn't worry too much, but I don't care about cosmetic things like that no matter how much they annoy me for not being perfect.
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Old December 27th, 2014, 09:28 AM
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You should see how they 'correct' them at the factory:
-postion knee where applicable
-grab door firmly
-push/pull half of door misaligned until acceptably aligned
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Old December 27th, 2014, 11:07 AM
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Old December 27th, 2014, 11:17 AM
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Do you get wind coming in around the frame? Mine are all goofy. I'd like to replace the seals and make the doors all align nice. Been a batch to adjust them.


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So, my doors all close well... too well, in fact, they are always slamming! When standing off, looking at the side of the truck, the doors all line up well. All gaps are pretty even, no sideways strange angles. But when you get at an acute angle to the side, as if standing at front or rear quarter and looking down the length of the vehicle, the doors are all odd. Some of them stick out 1/4 inch at the hinge edge, some stick out 1/4 inch at the opening edge, some are closer to lining up with the body panels at the bottom, some are closer to lining up at the top. I'd not be surprised if one or two doors are warped, but it seems like the hinged edge of the door should always close up nice and tight against the body. What do I need to do to fix this?
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Old December 27th, 2014, 01:50 PM
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I have replaced all the door seals, latches and shims, as well as new hinge assemblies and my doors still don't sit flush... It's a defender...

I have heard that the trick is to setup the proper shimming at the bulkhead to frame but I'm not ready to strip it down that far...
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Old December 27th, 2014, 05:28 PM
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The doors on my D90 close tightly like yours.
I began to notice some flex on the inside panel as I closed them.
When I removed the panels, I found that the inner steel section that the door handle attaches to had flexed and broken up by the push down door lock button. The passenger door was about to break too.
To fix the problem, I installed a 1/4" piece of angle just below the door lock button for the full width of the door with 5 attachment points.

Here's the thread with pic's
http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ad.php?t=54956
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Old December 27th, 2014, 05:48 PM
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I have replaced all the door seals, latches and shims, as well as new hinge assemblies and my doors still don't sit flush... It's a defender... I have heard that the trick is to setup the proper shimming at the bulkhead to frame but I'm not ready to strip it down that far...
No disassembly required. The shins are all accessible by simply loosening bolts and adding or removing.
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Old December 27th, 2014, 06:12 PM
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There are no thick shims. Nothing to push the door out from the body the way it shows in the pics.

I'm wondering if it is something like what Viton says, the door itself is flexing from the skin... or something like that.

I notice that the door tops do seem a bit flimsy, but they mostly sit tight against the seals.
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Old December 27th, 2014, 06:14 PM
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What do I need to do to fix this?


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Old December 27th, 2014, 09:48 PM
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There are two things you can see from outer space..........
The Great Wall of China and door gaps on a Land Rover Defender.
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In 1998 when the new land cruiser came out, the Toyota engineers were so impressed with the fit and finish that they placed a cat inside the SUV to test how air tight it was. They came back two days later and the cat was dead having used up all the oxygen in the vehicle. Hearing of this test, the Land Rover engineers repeated it with a new defender. They came back two days later and the cat was gone.
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Old December 28th, 2014, 12:16 PM
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Lol. That's awesome!
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Old December 28th, 2014, 12:22 PM
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In 1998 when the new land cruiser came out, the Toyota engineers were so impressed with the fit and finish that they placed a cat inside the SUV to test how air tight it was. They came back two days later and the cat was dead having used up all the oxygen in the vehicle. Hearing of this test, the Land Rover engineers repeated it with a new defender. They came back two days later and the cat was gone.
Hah!

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Old December 28th, 2014, 09:41 PM
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I would think shimming between the door and the hinge would offset the door away from the hinge and close the gap. Worth a try?
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Old December 28th, 2014, 10:04 PM
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I would think shimming between the door and the hinge would offset the door away from the hinge and close the gap. Worth a try?
Yeah, I think that's the only option. But I doubt I can ACTUALLY fix it. I'll try it when I get a chance.
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Old December 29th, 2014, 01:10 AM
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Tried it. Good luck. Let me know what kinda of magic you use.
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Old December 29th, 2014, 12:52 PM
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I'll jump on the boat as well. Here's mine, installed yesterday, but I ran out of time. The door closes and latches, but has a little play when you tug on it.
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That's a simple striker adjustment - the leading edge of the door is more difficult
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