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Old September 5th, 2011, 10:35 PM
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fitting a series front end on a defender

Anyone ever put a front end from a series onto a defender? I was wondering if it was possible. I don't know if a fender replacement would be necessary and if the old grill would work with the series grill.. The short hood should bolt on. But I'm not sure about that cover that is below the grill and above the bumper. I don't have the parts to to compare or test out. My 90 already has galvanised capping so it might look cool down dated to the old series look.
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Old September 6th, 2011, 01:17 AM
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Short answer is no it wont work cause the series hood is shorter then the defender hood.
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Old September 6th, 2011, 04:54 AM
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Series front end on a defender 90?

Don't see how that would matter if you have all the other series parts to work with the short hood. Grill, breakfast ect. The whole point is to run the short hood and old grill. I have seen people update series cars with defender parts so I'm wondering how hard it would be to go backwards and downdate.
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Space is pretty damn limited under the hood in a Defender. So much so, that they've actually been BUMPING OUT the grill an extra inch or two for trucks with A/C.
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Old September 6th, 2011, 09:57 AM
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Sorry when I read "grill" I thought you meant just changing out the grill and not the radiator panel as well. If you are changing up the front end of a Defender then I would plan it along the lines of converting a s3 from a 2.25 to a v8. You might have to change the bellhousing to a shorter one, assuming that you have a R380 already. (im assuming you have a stick). I am also assuming that you want to move back the radiator panel for that true series look.
There are others here who have actually converted s3 to a v8 and kept the series look. If you havent yet I would look over the ECR website as they have very will coverted S3 to v8's with good photos. Also look at LR4x4 forum.
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I think the steering box will be in the way, the steering box is further back on a Series.
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Thanks for the replies, I will have to do some more research. It's a 1985 d90 and has a 4cylinder petrol engine but plan to put a tdi in it soon. I'll keep the lt77 because it's feels like knew and it's original to the car which has 84,000 miles on it. I know the tdi will be a tight squeeze with the tdi but I know it's possbile in a series.
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Send a PM to oilburner. He knows everything about conversions.
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Yes it can be done, but you will need to modify the way both fenders tie to each other. You will have to radically chop and modify the front series slam panel. I did it the other way round by fitting series skins to defender inner arches with a radically modified series front panel mounted to a defender bulkhead On a series 3 with a 200tdi and power steering.

The only snag might be the steering box, and all the pipework. But anything can be done if you have enough time and patience.

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Space is pretty damn limited under the hood in a Defender. So much so, that they've actually been BUMPING OUT the grill an extra inch or two for trucks with A/C.
It depends on which engine you have. If you have a 2.5 or 200TDI with the short bellhousing, there is a ton of room.
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It will also look a bit odd because the forward most crossmember is a lot further forward on a defender. If you want a bit of the series look, swap to SIII headlight surrounds and a stage one V8 galvanized steel grill.

BTW, if you do the conversion, I am very interested in your stock slam panel (the black thing the hood latches into).
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If I'm not mistaken, the front cross member also has the power steering pipes running lengthwise across it, if your truck has PS.

A lot of work just for a little breakfast
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lol yeah it might be a bit much just for some breakfast...that's funny. I like the series V8 grill idea. Anyone know what's needed for this swap and where you can find the parts? Is it just a grill and headlight surrounds that's needed or is the center breakfast section different as well? Headlight surrounds are easy to find, but I don't know about the V8 breakfast section and the grill.

Thanks for the insight guys.
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It's just the grill that's different.
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