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Old August 8th, 2007, 02:48 PM
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Fire Extinguisher

I want to get a fire extinguisher in the event my defender decides to ligght itself on fire. Nothing too crazy just something to mount to the roll cage behind the center cubby box. Any idea?
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Old August 8th, 2007, 02:54 PM
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I got one from these guys. Also got the two strap braket to make sure it stays in place.

I mounted it in front of the seatbox.

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Old August 8th, 2007, 03:04 PM
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ABC chemicals are highly reactive and will destroy a lot of your truck while you try to save it, consider a halotron extinguisher. They are filled with recycled halon and leave no residue.
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Old August 8th, 2007, 03:35 PM
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Kevin is absolutely correct. If you get an ABC extinguisher and fire it off in the engine compartment, prerpare to have your whole wiring harness be junk. The dry chem will destory all rubber bits as well as wiring. Definetly consider a halon extinguisher. A bit more money but definetly worth it!.
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Old August 8th, 2007, 03:35 PM
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halon extinguisher are the way to go. that's what the military uses in tanks. halon extinguishers are commonly available through pilot supply retailers, since you don't want to damage the plane or electronics further while flying and putting out a fire.
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Old August 8th, 2007, 03:37 PM
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so i take it the link to the first one is a bad idea?

any links to where to get one?
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Old August 8th, 2007, 03:56 PM
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so i take it the link to the first one is a bad idea?

any links to where to get one?
Actually if you click on that above link, you will then see a link to Halon extinguishers.


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Another option: http://www.h3r.com/products/home_vehicle.htm
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Doesn't halon need to be in a contained space to be effective? Like a closed room.
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Old August 8th, 2007, 03:58 PM
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Here. http://www.h3r.com/If you have an engine fire, do not open the hood , just stick the nozzle in the grill and empty the whole damn thing. Thats your best chance of knocking it out. It starves the fire best in an enclosed space.
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Old August 8th, 2007, 04:02 PM
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it seems the first one listed should be fine. it says it isnt abc and is the best cheapest alternative to halon
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I want to get a fire extinguisher in the event my defender decides to ligght itself on fire. Nothing too crazy just something to mount to the roll cage behind the center cubby box. Any idea?
Change out your oil cooling lines too. They are the biggest cause of Defender fires.
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The one at IO Port is 10BC. (not ABC) Halon with a 10BC rating at H3R starts at $230.

I hate to have a little 2BC and not have enough.

YMMV
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so i take it the link to the first one is a bad idea?

any links to where to get one?
Here's one from a major pilot supplier:

http://www.sportys.com/acb/showprod....tGroup_ID=1273

You'll notice closeup that they are H3R products.
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A cheaper choice than Halotron is Potassium bicarbonate (aka Purple-K). It won't hurt the engine and works well. Everything we use at work (refinery type setting) uses this.

FYI, "halon" is illegal to produce as it is a CFC.... The new stuff is "halotron".
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where can i get one?
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Interesting info in this thread. Thanks.

I was reading through the H3R site, and it seems that Halon really isn't illegal to use (per the EPA). However the production of new Halon was banned in 1994. Existing Halon supplies can be used as long as it's used properly and recycled. So the three main choices appear to be Halon, Halotron, and dry chemical. If you're environmentally conscious, then the choice narrows to Halotron and dry chemical. It's not clear to me whether the dry chemical variants (sodium bicarbonate, Purple-K, etc) will cause any engine compartment damage or not. So would Halotron be the best choice from most aspects (i.e. environmentally, damage potential, and effectiveness in dealing with enclosed space fires)? It's also moderately priced between Halon and dry chemical. Anyone know of any negatives regarding Halotron other than it's a little pricey (~$150 for 5 lbs).
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You might also consider the Hawke ABCDK AllFire Designer Foam.
Here's an RV website that discusses the various choices and the Hawke looked the best to me from a cleanup, cost and emulsifying petroleum products:

http://www.aonrecreation.com/ardhome...0Extinguishers

Clark

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I thought this was relevant too:

http://macthefireguy.com/34_fire_fac..._save_your.htm
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Old August 8th, 2007, 11:29 PM
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Don't forget CO2 in a BC extinguisher. It's rated for oil fires and won't harm electrical stuff.
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