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Old October 8th, 2016, 02:44 AM
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Hey All, this morning I stopped to look at an AA yellow 1994 Defender 90. OR so I thought... upon further inspection, the d90 was clearly a ROW made to look like an NAS. The front right fender flare had rubbed against the body and I could see trident green paint. Additionally I saw this paint around the rear door. It had the front hoop, the padded roll cage, alloys, everything. It was extremely convincing. The rear tail light holes had been patched to fit the NAS style and the work was almost invisible. The easiest way to tell (and the first thing I looked for) was the center bulkhead that the owner attempted to cut down to resemble the open NAS. From the looks of it the Defender was an 80's european model LHD. Has anyone ever seen this before? A bit concerning. The NAS rear plaque was even there, I think the number was 20XX?

Anyway, hope this was a cool/strange sighting. Wish I could have gotten pictures. Ill be on the lookout for it in the future!
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Old October 8th, 2016, 02:55 AM
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You stopped to look at one that was for sale being passed off as NAS? Now that would be impressively devious.

Just cloned for the pride of the owner? Simply extensive and expensive! ;-) All parts are available, just pricey. A-hoop is easy, but the padded roll cage, if an ST, is a pita to get so I'm guessing it was an SW! If so, did you see a ribbed roof? Bulkhead removal bars are available, so considering all that you say they did to replicate a NAS truck, I don't know why they didn't go the extra mile. Alloys with exposed hubs? Running alloys with center caps on a row would have required axle swaps, or spacers I guess. Sure would have been fun to see pics! ;-)
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Old October 8th, 2016, 08:28 AM
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Could it have been a salvage re-built truck? A couple of the D90 were burn victims and could have been completely re-done? A search of the Vin number would help. Also search the registry.
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Old October 8th, 2016, 08:32 AM
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I put an NAS SW cage on my old 90, but I didn't realize I was committing fraud.
I had the badge and the lights to.
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Old October 8th, 2016, 08:38 AM
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It's one thing to make up grades to ROW trucks but to try and sell as a NAS is another thing.
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Old October 8th, 2016, 08:46 AM
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It's one thing to make up grades to ROW trucks but to try and sell as a NAS is another thing.
what brewie said..Is it for sale? plenty of folks build clones of more valuable/rare vehicles not a real a big deal unless you try and sell it as an original. Good on the owner if it took that close an inspection to tell the difference.

how many Eleanor clones have been built?

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Old October 8th, 2016, 08:54 AM
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I don't think the OP said the 90 was for sale. Most every make of high end desirable model or optioned cars are cloned. From a $63M Ferrari 250 GTO on down. Just don't try to pass it off as real.

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Old October 8th, 2016, 09:11 AM
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Hey All, this morning I stopped to look at an AA yellow 1994 Defender 90. OR so I thought... upon further inspection, the d90 was clearly a ROW made to look like an NAS. The front right fender flare had rubbed against the body and I could see trident green paint. Additionally I saw this paint around the rear door. It had the front hoop, the padded roll cage, alloys, everything. It was extremely convincing. The rear tail light holes had been patched to fit the NAS style and the work was almost invisible. The easiest way to tell (and the first thing I looked for) was the center bulkhead that the owner attempted to cut down to resemble the open NAS. From the looks of it the Defender was an 80's european model LHD. Has anyone ever seen this before? A bit concerning. The NAS rear plaque was even there, I think the number was 20XX? Anyway, hope this was a cool/strange sighting. Wish I could have gotten pictures. Ill be on the lookout for it in the future!
All this text and no pics? Have we not taught you anything?!
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Old October 8th, 2016, 09:19 AM
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There are plenty of shops thay specialize in fake amg and m exterior conversions. Seems kind of silly but certainly no harm to anyone. A friend is having his g500 converted to a g63 as we speak and it is not cheap.
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Old October 8th, 2016, 11:36 AM
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And some people try to pass off late models vin swaps as 25 year old trucks and wear fake Rolex watches.
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Old October 8th, 2016, 12:16 PM
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Can yo tell the difference ??
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Old October 8th, 2016, 12:24 PM
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Can yo tell the difference ??
Not from here! ;-)

Certain cars I'd actually prefer a fake so that I wouldn't feel bad actually driving it. My next serious toy is going to be a 308/328 to 288GTO and I'm going to drive the snot out of it guilt free! ;-)
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Old October 8th, 2016, 12:50 PM
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No different than guys trying to pass off newer truck as older ones, VIN swapping. It's fraud no matter how you slice it.

I'm surprised with the high price demand of NAS trucks, we haven't seen more of this.
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Old October 8th, 2016, 12:55 PM
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Not from here! ;-)

Certain cars I'd actually prefer a fake so that I wouldn't feel bad actually driving it. My next serious toy is going to be a 308/328 to 288GTO and I'm going to drive the snot out of it guilt free! ;-)
I want to see that! 288 GTO is my all-time favourite.
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Old October 8th, 2016, 11:09 PM
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I want to see that! 288 GTO is my all-time favourite.
So do I! Haha ;-) I need to sell this house first. My favorite as well. No doubt the coolest of the vintage!

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Old October 8th, 2016, 11:29 PM
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Well, it probably has an ice chest of smelly fish in the boot also. But no that's not it.
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Old October 8th, 2016, 11:39 PM
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Haha! Sure. But if we're being serious, then DJ is driving the fake C4 Vette based replicar. So from here:

Door latches
Fender rolls
Rear mirrors
Quarter tip windows
Left rear antenna
Rear quarter marker reflectors
Etc.... ;-)
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Old October 9th, 2016, 12:38 AM
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All this text and no pics? Have we not taught you anything?!
Im dying wishing I got pictures. It wasn't for sale thank God. Just parked in a lot but the amount of effort put into it seemed fairly extensive. my guess is that someone had a ROW that needed a new paint job, they went with AA yellow and decided to take it a few steps further. It seemed like it was done piece by piece rather than all at once if that makes sense. Still just a real mind twist seeing that thing. All in all it seemed like a really nice 90. Its the kind of truck you would buy if you wanted an NAS but felt like the devil for actually using it off road. Ill never forget my friends face when he bottomed out in his (coincidence) '94 AA yellow NAS ST.
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Old October 9th, 2016, 08:37 AM
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Im dying wishing I got pictures. Just parked in a lot
Yeah so no excuse on the no pics it looks like. Any chance it was abandoned?
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Old October 9th, 2016, 10:59 AM
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No but the 288 GTO bodied fiero was ... or should be.
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