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Old September 19th, 2006, 12:20 AM
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exhaust systems

I need to break down and replace my exhaust from the manifolds back. Patching it piece by piece will no longer do it.

Options:
Stock
Borla
NRP
ECR

Any others?

Do any include the entire system (cats and all)?

Which do you guys suggest?

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Old September 19th, 2006, 12:31 AM
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I've had it beaten into me that the Borla is the best with NRP coming a very, very close second.

http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/9925.cfm

Here is what Atlantic British has to about Borla:
Borla Stainless Steel Exhaust
The best exhaust system you can buy for your Rover, for several reasons. Aircraft-quality T-304 stainless steel construction is lighter and stronger than conventional steel and is used inside and out (not just a stainless coating). Its fully welded without crimping for umimpeded flow-through, with slip-fit connectors for an easy, secure fit. Maintenance-free sound absorbing materials maintains low dBs, protects against burnout and reduces shell temperature and each Borla exhaust is precision-tuned to your vehicle to actually improve engine performance. GUARANTEED for 1 million miles - the best in the business! Legal in all 50 states. It all adds up to make this the last exhaust system youll ever buy for your Rover!
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Old September 19th, 2006, 02:08 AM
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Hi Ted,

This thread comes up all the time. There are camps that love the Borla (it is nice) and then there are folks who love Flowmaster and the like (probably because they are cheap).

If you can afford the Borla, go with that.
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Old September 19th, 2006, 08:22 AM
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You forgot Janspeed. We have a mid muffler and tail section available (SS). I'll get some pics tonite.
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Old September 19th, 2006, 09:27 AM
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so do any of them include the entire system? Borla would appear to be a cat back or at least that is what I have been assuming.

If the dcat back systems are the best then who makes a good y-pipe with cats?
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Old September 19th, 2006, 09:39 AM
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Like I say every time in one of these threads. Just go to a muffler shop and have it all done for you. If you want, you can have them use SS and can have them use any muffler you want. Even the most outlandish shop will save you hundreds over a kit. I did my 3in for $180.
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Old September 19th, 2006, 11:21 AM
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Something about Borla.
That "million mile guarantee" is bullshit.
My truck has 125K miles on it.
It has a Borla exhaust system that has been on there for the last 50K miles.
The exhaust is shot. Its ratteling in the quiet-pack muffler. I called Borla and asked them how I can use their warranty, they said, you need to produce a receipt. I said well, I dont have the receipt, but it DOES say BORLA on the exhaust system, and clearly, it has a lot less than million miles, so what is the problem of honoring your warranty.
The answer I got was, no receipt, no warranty!!!

I think thats just rediculous!!!

I'd go with a cheaper flowmaster muffler, and have your local shop build you the rest, and forget paying up the whazzoo for the "warranty" and the "best blah blah blah"'
at least, when I had this done on my Jeep, the local guy fixed it every time somethign would go wrong with it, free of charge, because it guaranteed his work for 3 years, unlimited milage.


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Old September 19th, 2006, 11:24 AM
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what is the consensus on the dia for a 300tdi? is back pressure an issue?
Buck you say 3in? your running a 300 right?
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Old September 19th, 2006, 03:49 PM
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I don't think backpressure is ever an issue with a tdi, is it?
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straight pipe it. TdI

Magnaflow for the V8
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Old September 19th, 2006, 04:43 PM
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I went with 2.5in exhaust pipes and flowmaster 40 series. I don't regret it a bit. My next system if this one falls apart will be the same but with some custom piping with a cross pipe to equalize the pressure b/w both sides possibly.
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So did you do two separate pipes, one for each bank of cylinders? If that's not the case, I don't understand what you mean by a cross-pipe.
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what is the consensus on the dia for a 300tdi? is back pressure an issue?
Buck you say 3in? your running a 300 right?
Yes,

300 TDi with a 3in straight pipe no muffler. You can not run too little backpressure on a Diesel. More than 3in would not be of any advantage because the choke point is the flange just after the turbo. Hope that helps.
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Old September 19th, 2006, 05:28 PM
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Cool david.. thats what I thought... thanks
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Old September 19th, 2006, 07:19 PM
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go with the flowmaster system, tons of people have them and they sound good
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Old September 19th, 2006, 08:33 PM
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I had a flowmaster in my old 90 a while back and hated it. It was too loud and resonated in the cab. Some may like it but I didn't, It was really an attention graber which a 90 is with out being loud. but some may like that.
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Old September 19th, 2006, 11:32 PM
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David's right...local muffler shop is quick and cheap. on my old V8 Meineke did everything including cats back for around $250 bucks.
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Old September 20th, 2006, 06:49 AM
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You might look across the pond at places like Rimmer Brothers - there are lots of stainless exhaust system manufacturers that advertise in the British magazines like Land Rover Owner and Land Rover Enthusiast.
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Old November 8th, 2006, 05:06 PM
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Sorry to bring this back up but I still don't have the answer.

Who makes y-pipes?

Who makes a full kit? Not cat back.

Can anyone tell me where to find magnaflow or flowmaster systems? Neither have this application listed on their sights.

I am looking for a local shop that does good work but think a quality kit would work out better.
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Old November 8th, 2006, 05:30 PM
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Seems to me the stock system they sell at DAP is cheaper, and stock has the same sound. The muffs are stainless anyway, and my stock system is still OK after 74,000. In the NE thats saying a lot.
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