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Old November 6th, 2014, 07:36 PM
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EX MOD headlight replacement

Hi all- as we get less light I realize that my beloved defender has totally inadequate headlights. It is a tithonus ex MOD and i suppose they wanted the headlights to be dim. On bright, they are well, not... I see kits advertised to upgrade. Hella if I go with RN and a number of options across the pond. Anyone have experience with this? Thanks!
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Old November 6th, 2014, 07:57 PM
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This will fix your dim light issue:
http://www.rallylights.com/hl281-tra...p-harness.html

Tell them it is for a Defender and they will custom make the length for the power wire for either the battery box or the starter lug. I went with the starter lug myself.
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Old November 6th, 2014, 08:23 PM
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Also install a relay in the circuit. Putting all those watts through the switch just sucks up the amps and watts.

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...eadlight+relay
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Old November 6th, 2014, 08:45 PM
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The first link is for a relay system. I would do that and some Hella ecode lights.
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Or just install LED's which are a 10x improvement over any relay / Hella eCode option. The draw less current and can use the existing switch without issue.
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This will fix your dim light issue:
http://www.rallylights.com/hl281-tra...p-harness.html

Tell them it is for a Defender and they will custom make the length for the power wire for either the battery box or the starter lug. I went with the starter lug myself.
x2 I had one in my 90 and it made a WORLD of difference
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Hi all- as we get less light I realize that my beloved defender has totally inadequate headlights. It is a tithonus ex MOD and i suppose they wanted the headlights to be dim. On bright, they are well, not... I see kits advertised to upgrade. Hella if I go with RN and a number of options across the pond. Anyone have experience with this? Thanks!
Don,

We have a few examples of various solutions in the shop if you make it down this way anytime. LED - I am testing some reasonably priced LED lamps on my 110, we have a customer project with a HID/relay setup, and I am running a standard H4 with relay on my 130.

Brian
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Here's what I did with my Tithonus:

- Pulled out the stock bulbs and housings
- Ordered new mounting hardware (tabs, bezel rings, mounting screws) from SafariHP
- Bought Hella H4 housings from Amazon http://amzn.com/B0002M9QJM
- Bought Hella bulbs from Amazon http://amzn.com/B000COBLJI
- Bought an ARB heavy duty relay harness http://www.quadratec.com/products/97018_2430.htm
- Bought a female headlight plug pigtail (the 3-bladed thing that attaches to the back of the headlight) from O'Reilly and bought some bullet connectors from British Wiring.

I powered up the ARB harness (mounted on the inner lip of the drivers side wing) from my Blue Sea Systems fuse panel.

The Tithonus stock headlight wiring uses bullet connectors, not the 3-spaded plugs like most H4 lights, so you have to make an adapter. I crimped bullet connectors onto the O'Reilly pigtail and plugged those bullets into the remains of the stock headlight wiring loom. What this does is provides power from the truck's headlight wiring to engage the ARB relays, which are connected to your new headlights.

Works like a champ. Now I have awesome headlights that still look proper for an ex-MOD truck.

If you want to swing down to Brian's shop or Tacoma, I'll show you how to do it. I have an extra pigtail that you can have.

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Old November 12th, 2014, 12:21 PM
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Thanks all, lots to consider. Brian, I will try to get down there. Interested in LED options
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What LED options work well? does anyone have a good rec?


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What LED options work well? does anyone have a good rec?


TIA
My question exactly...
Hoping the price will come down and technology and mass production comes into play.
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These are the ones I put on...I offered $220 which he took...

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I like my Hella e-code headlights and 100w bulbs.
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Here's what I did with my Tithonus:

- Pulled out the stock bulbs and housings
- Ordered new mounting hardware (tabs, bezel rings, mounting screws) from SafariHP
- Bought Hella H4 housings from Amazon http://amzn.com/B0002M9QJM
- Bought Hella bulbs from Amazon Amazon.com: HELLA HLA-H83140141 H4 12V 100/55W Halogen Bulb Off Road Use: Automotive
- Bought an ARB heavy duty relay harness ARB M002 - ARB H4 Headlight Wire Loom Upgrade - Quadratec
- Bought a female headlight plug pigtail (the 3-bladed thing that attaches to the back of the headlight) from O'Reilly and bought some bullet connectors from British Wiring.

I powered up the ARB harness (mounted on the inner lip of the drivers side wing) from my Blue Sea Systems fuse panel.

The Tithonus stock headlight wiring uses bullet connectors, not the 3-spaded plugs like most H4 lights, so you have to make an adapter. I crimped bullet connectors onto the O'Reilly pigtail and plugged those bullets into the remains of the stock headlight wiring loom. What this does is provides power from the truck's headlight wiring to engage the ARB relays, which are connected to your new headlights.

Works like a champ. Now I have awesome headlights that still look proper for an ex-MOD truck.

If you want to swing down to Brian's shop or Tacoma, I'll show you how to do it. I have an extra pigtail that you can have.

I realize this is an older thread and lights continue to change rapidly. But this system is an awesome solution, and if you are put off by making the adaptor, Susquehanna makes it as well.
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One thing I'd do, is make up a relay loom so that the light switch itself (either the military 6 way or the civvy 2 way) operates the relay, and the headlight gets a direct feed from the battery (via fuses) in bigger cable than LR fit....


This will make the light noticeably brighter.


also, some (not all) UK military LR headlights (and other vehicles) had "centre" aim lights, they don't dip to the left (or right) and as a result I figure weren't as bright as they could be so as not to dazzle oncoming traffic.


the reason the UK stuff is like that, is we drive on the correct side of the road; the rest of the world do it wrong so whenever mil vehicles went overseas on ex or during conflict, the lights were a kind of "one size fits all"
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Exactly what the Susquehanna kit does, and is plug and play- even allows proper length for remoteness of battery box.
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