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Old August 1st, 2015, 07:20 PM
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Engine vomiting oil

I've never seen this before.

Turbo seal blown was my first thought a couple months ago when it started smoking badly. It's been parked for a couple months and this is what happened when I fired it up today. The volume of oil coming out was pretty staggering.

So, I guess I'm looking at a new turbo, unless someone has some other thoughts what this is? I took off the intake pipe and it was extremely wet with oil.

In the mean time I have an oil spill to clean up.
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Old August 1st, 2015, 07:46 PM
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Old August 1st, 2015, 07:48 PM
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If it was leaking into the intake, the engine would run away out of control!! Must be dumping into the exhaust.
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Old August 1st, 2015, 07:52 PM
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holy shit! Pull up next to a Prius and hit the gas.....haahahahahaha

(i can say that because I have two )
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Old August 2nd, 2015, 04:17 AM
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So it's got to be coming from the turbo oil lubrication/cooling flow into the exhaust side, right? New turbo, unless it's easy to replace the impeller/bearing/seal package.
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Old August 2nd, 2015, 08:46 AM
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Jason:
As John B. says the oil is NOT on the intake side, but being dumped into the exhaust side of the turbine.
Yes you need to have your turbo rebuilt or replaced and then push it/tow it somewhere where you can spew a little oil because when you start it again the oil left in the exhaust will pour out again and then subside as the engine runs until it is only smoking badly and finally transition to not smoking much.
You could lay out news papers and to clean up simply roll them up and throw them out or burn them.
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Or you can do like the red necks and Roll Coal on some hybrids or redneck girls. Just YouTube it and you'll know what I mean
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We just had a 200 in the shop with the same issue and it was the head gasket. The truck had no other issues and actually ran great.
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Old August 2nd, 2015, 12:32 PM
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Really, the head gasket? The engine does seem to run just fine aside from it's upset stomach.
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Old August 2nd, 2015, 01:29 PM
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We just had a 200 in the shop with the same issue and it was the head gasket. The truck had no other issues and actually ran great.
How does a blown head gasket put oil into the exhaust?
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I finally got around to pulling the turbo and sure enough that was the problem - the turbine shaft was just flopping around in the housing.

Now I have received the replacement turbo, which came with only the center part of the exhaust manifold. How the heck do you get the two exhaust 'horns' off - is there any special trick? Use a bigger hammer?

After they are removed, how do you align them in the correct position and then seal them from leaks? I imagine some kind of cement... what's recommended?
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Yep just knock them out. They don't use any sealer.
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They came out with some baby sledge beating - just needed a bigger hammer.

The old manifold horns sure fit in the new turbo loosely. So they will eventually seal on their own eh?
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They came out with some baby sledge beating - just needed a bigger hammer.

The old manifold horns sure fit in the new turbo loosely. So they will eventually seal on their own eh?
I thought you were supposed to use some sort of exhaust paste. Uncle Douglas has mentioned this before, but it's a delicate operation since you don't want to over coat it and suck anything in where it doesn't belong.
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Use some exhaust cement if they seem loose.
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Have always heated the manifold with a torch and gently tapped them out.

To install, I put the piece with the male end into the freezer and the piece with the female in the oven to heat it at a low temperature.
Then tap the two ends together.
Make sure to do it on a flat surface so you have all the flanges on the same plane.
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OK, so I got the new turbo fitted with some difficulty... be warned, some of the aftermarket replacement turbos for the 300tdi will not be a perfect match. Problems I experienced:

1) vaccuum pod nipple facing the wrong direction
2) the supplied center exhaust housing has a casting protrusion that makes it impossible to get a ratchet/socket on the lower center exhaust manifold nut/bolt. It's only accessible with a wrench.
3) the oil return line fitting from the turbo bearing has the wrong sized threaded holes

I solved the above by:
1) disconnecting the pod and turning it 180 degrees. This still isn't ideal but is workable.
2) using the old center exhaust housing. I just couldn't get to the center lower nut satisfactorily and decided to unbolt the turbo core from the new housing and install into the old.
3) I used a smaller bolt. This required that I put a 'sleeve' on the small bolt to center the oil return line fitting on the turbo. Seemed to work perfectly. Properly I should have drilled/tapped it larger but screw it.

In this pic you can see the new turbo housing - in the second pic I've circled the part of the casting which makes it impossible to get a ratchet onto the fastener (bolt or nut/stud).
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Old February 10th, 2016, 03:28 PM
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The new turbo seems to be working fine. As can be seen from my initial video there was oil literally spraying out of the exhaust system.

Here's a video showing how loose the old turbo was in the housing, so I'm pretty sure this is where all the oil was coming from...
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I drove it around the block the day I installed it and at first it was fine but it started spewing smoke after it heated up a bit. I expected some of this because of the volume of oil that must have been in the exhaust system (see first post w/ video)... in fact, when I pulled back into my driveway I noticed a trail of oil dripping from the exhaust tailpipe like breadcrumbs down the street. It was about 6pm and people were coming home so I didn't want to choke them out with smoke so I parked it.

Today I ran it for awhile to get it warmed up then drove around the block a couple dozen times... it got good and warm and was blowing huge clouds of smoke. This was pretty annoying I'm sure, even though most people weren't home.

I put it back into my driveway and let it idle for 15 minutes and it continued to smoke profusely. So, I have to wonder, did I actually solve the problem and it just takes that long for all the oil to burn out of the exhaust system (as it got nice and hot in the pipes so it was smoking at idle) or is there something else going on?

It even for a while got hot enough that it started backfiring when I'd let off the throttle - so the oil was exploding in the exhaust pipes.

Here's a video of the exhaust at idle after many trips around the block. You can see a bit of oil on the ground that has sprayed out.

I'm not sure what to do now - if the system is that full of oil, how do I get it out w/o making a cloudy mess? It's not like I could flush it with water without polluting as well. Or, is something else going on...

I may need a hazmat team.
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