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Old October 15th, 2015, 01:29 AM
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Engine Video: Is this good?

Hi all,

Could any diesel gurus on the board listen to this engine video and see if this engine is acceptable audibly?

I did notice the belt squeal and you can see it loose in the video but other than that, do you see/hear anything else?

Any more information I should be asking for?

Video uploaded on the Google drive. If it does not play automatically, you may have to download it. It is not porn. I promise.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-...FBSanpIUHpiQlE

Thank you so much for your input!
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Old October 15th, 2015, 01:58 PM
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Here is the video directly uploaded to the forum, hopefully it will embed fine.
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Old October 15th, 2015, 02:02 PM
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Alternator belt looks pretty loose. That is probably the squeal you heard.
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Old October 15th, 2015, 02:04 PM
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Other than the squeal, sounds normal. Do you hear something?
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Old October 15th, 2015, 02:08 PM
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I have been a gas guy all my life. This is my first diesel so I am relying on your wisdom.


This is out of running Disco I with 100K miles with everything from radiator to the transfercase.


Would you buy this? and What is a reasonable price for these? Any comments on the Disco I drivetrain? My LT77 is ok. Transfercase has some issues with diff lock.


Thanks a lot!
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Old October 15th, 2015, 02:11 PM
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It's a Land Rover.....it sounds expensive...

A running 300Tdi w/ all that...offer them $1500, maybe $2000. Is there any history at all? That could affect value.
Tcase =$125(probably needs linkage lubed)
Trans=$450
The rest=the difference


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Old October 15th, 2015, 02:12 PM
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Listening to the engine is not really a way t tell its condition. Remove the oil filler cap. Put your hand over the hole and rev it up. You should get some suction. Excess gas coming out would show high blowby. Then do a compression check. Are there records of when the timing belt was done?

Are you asking for a value of the engine or of the whole vehicle?
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Old October 15th, 2015, 02:14 PM
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Oh sorry, you say the engine and gearboxes... In the UK, or in the USA?
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If you have an iPhone you can record it in slow-mo. I've done this before as you can hear the engine running much better and easier to hear each piston
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Old October 15th, 2015, 08:34 PM
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It is in UK and I would say it is very well reasonably priced by any standards @ right around $2K for complete drivetrain and ancillaries. I am new to defenders so I am not sure but it is sometimes laughable how much some folks wants to charge here in US.. Then again I suppose it is supply and demand determining the price.


I wish I can get the compression numbers and such but I am not sure if the seller would go that far.


I will ask for the oil filler cap video. He sent me tail pipe video and it smokes white right upon startup but seems to disappear very quickly.


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given that my only experiences are with a 200tdi, the idle clatter is much louder than I would expect. Other than that, it sounds like a normal diesel engine. Not sure what that will tell you, however.
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Old October 15th, 2015, 08:40 PM
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Ed, what does idle clatter mean? Worn piston ring? valve adjustment out of adjustment?
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No. It sounds as it should. Valve noise is impossible hear until a valve stops opening.

$2000 is a decent price. Shipping is the problem.
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I assume you are planning to install this into a disco or rr. Not worth the hassle modifying everything to fit a defender.
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I don't think my 200 has ever revved that high. good to know.
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I assume you are planning to install this into a disco or rr. Not worth the hassle modifying everything to fit a defender.
Yes I am planning on using the engine and the transfer case.

I read it was the exhaust that needed some attention which can be addressed by manifold sold by Steve Parker or eBay. No?

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Ed, what does idle clatter mean? Worn piston ring? valve adjustment out of adjustment?
I have no idea. It's just that compared to the sound of the exhaust while revving, the idle clatter is extremely loud. It may just be that the sound equalization on your video is amplifying the clatter.

If it's genuinely loud, then I would check timing first - over-advanced?
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IMO/E If the seller isn't willing to do reasonable checks (properly) then you should consider moving on.

The problem isn't exactly supply and demand as much as it is folks not doing the homework correctly and believing everything they read.

The key to all this IMO is timing? If you need something now then it will likely cost you more than a guy that has time and patience to run the numbers and do a proper comparison.

Some here might disagree but with unknown engine history you should consider the pros and cons of doing as much as possible, in terms of checks, belts, tensioners, pumps and seals, etc, while it is out of the truck. The cost and time for this can be significant if you are new to these engines.

It seems the way some of us go about engine swaps is a little crazy sometimes. Myself included. I did a lot of things wrong and would never suggest piecemealing an engine swap together if you are new to these engines, naturally budget minded and need the truck sooner rather than later. They aren't "bullet proof" (whatever that means) so I would urge you to be mindful of what effort goes in to the swap plan and execution.
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A few thoughts based on my experience and things others have not said.

disco 200 engine is worth maybe 400 gbp, look on ebay uk for price point reference
disco lt 77 trans doesn't work in a defender, shifter is much further back, pretty much worthless here
Disco tcase will be a 1.2 and I wouldnt bother to ship a pre q series over since the q box's are plentiful on the ground here for 150-200 and much better box's.
Every radiator I have bought out of the UK needed to be replaced due to salt damage.

$2000 is getting ripped off, if it covered shipping cost to the west coast it would be a decent price.


That knocking @ idle means it is correctly timed.
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I was mistaken- I thought drivetrain was already stateside...disregard my valuation and refer to Doug's.



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