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Old June 4th, 2013, 11:47 AM
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Wasnt the 4BD1T an option in the 110 in Aus?
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Do you think the 2014 Jeep 3.0 Diesel with 8 sp. transmission will be option down the road?
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Old June 4th, 2013, 01:57 PM
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Do you think the 2014 Jeep 3.0 Diesel with 8 sp. transmission will be option down the road?
That is a LONG transmission. Then slap on a thick transfer case like the 230 and you probably have a space issue.
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Damn. Out of curiousity, how much is a brand-new crate OM617
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Old June 4th, 2013, 02:03 PM
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Damn. Out of curiousity, how much is a brand-new crate OM617
brand new? do you mean rebuilt?
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Robert suggested that new ones were available.
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Old June 4th, 2013, 02:56 PM
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I do not intend to keep my 2.5L Turbo D in my Landy. Frankly it just is way too underpowered.

200TDI good idea? but not much of a change.
300TDI - excellent choice but I want to swap after the first of the year and I believe the 300TDI is not going to be 21 years old yet, until 2015


Throwing this out there for technical discussion.
The differences between a 200 and 300 are minimal to the point that they are exactly the same displacement and one puts out 2hp more than the other. 2hp which is easily overcome/regained with correct injection timing and tuning (factory settings are somewhat retarded from optimal). The 200 tdi would be the obvious choice for your rig. You are seemingly misinformed on it vs your 2.5 td if you think the 300 would be an "excellent choice".

I have a defender 200tdi complete setup that will be available in the next 30 days or so if that is of interest.

That said only the Benz engine or baby Cummins or detroit iron are ever going to be legal transplants if you are worried about legality.

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Damn. Out of curiousity, how much is a brand-new crate OM617

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Yeah, I think 200 TDI makes most sense since it's almost a drop in proposition. That would be easy peasy.

For a custom app. I think a VW TDI would be cool. Maybe when my jetta dies I will use the engine for a Rover. Going on 400K miles.
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When you'll do, let me know

Jim (Hall) had and still has? one in his Series...
I love the idea, and they should be unexpensive around here...

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One of my Dīs has stock 2.5 300tdi but with 2.8īs IP,(...) and it does make a huge difference.
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Old June 4th, 2013, 06:19 PM
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Didn't South African market Defenders use BMW engines? An inline 6 would be cool. I wouldn't mind seeing a BMW Diesel or even an XJR supercharged inline 6 under the hood of my truck one day.
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Old June 4th, 2013, 06:20 PM
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That said only the Benz engine or baby Cummins or detroit iron are ever going to be legal transplants if you are worried about legality.

But wouldn't the Isuzu 4bd1t be legal since it's in the NPR trucks here in the states?
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Old June 4th, 2013, 06:24 PM
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But wouldn't the Isuzu 4bd1t be legal since it's in the NPR trucks here in the states?
I think it has to be out of the same year or newer and it has to be the same GVWR or lower but as a rover V8 guy I never dug in.
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Old June 4th, 2013, 06:34 PM
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Having driven a D90 with a GM Gen III 5.3 vortec V8 a month or so ago, I can tell you it's extremely tempting.

Are you set on Diesel?

Edit: wrong engine....
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Old June 4th, 2013, 08:58 PM
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But wouldn't the Isuzu 4bd1t be legal since it's in the NPR trucks here in the states?
Doesnt matter. The motors are medium duty diesels and are not legal for swaps into a light duty truck. Like I said earlier, I think that the 4BD1T was used in 110s in Australia so there might even be a bellhousing to use a Rover transmission. You could probably get away with that swap since the feds seem not to care all that much about it (there is an entire website devoted to it after all).

A 5.3/ 4L80E combination would be killer. If you can retain all the goodies (completely possible), you might even be able to keep the cylinder deactivation and pick up some mpg.
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Old June 4th, 2013, 10:27 PM
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The 4BD1T was used in 110s in Australia so there is a bellhousing to use a Rover LT95.
Fixed it for you. There is no question about it's existence. They were factory fit for the AUS market.
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Old June 4th, 2013, 10:45 PM
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Yes but they are not available except used.
Bellhousings for a 4bd1t?
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Old June 5th, 2013, 11:34 AM
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Having driven a D90 with a GM Gen III 5.3 vortec V8 a month or so ago, I can tell you it's extremely tempting.

Are you set on Diesel?

Edit: wrong engine....
Pray tell more. I have decided that when my 300 tdi gives up the ghost, a GM V8 will go in.
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Old June 5th, 2013, 11:56 AM
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Bellhousings for a 4bd1t?
Correct. The parts needed to mate an Isuzu engine to a Land Rover gearbox were custom made by Land Rover Australia and the only ones that exist are on existing vehicles.
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Old June 5th, 2013, 12:25 PM
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Fixed it for you. There is no question about it's existence. They were factory fit for the AUS market.
Thanks. So, LT95 and then an overdrive and you would have a factory(ish) setup.
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