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Old July 13th, 2016, 12:23 PM
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There are also Webasto Diavia kits available.

Model Year PS CIL C.C. H.P. Control Additional Kits P/N

DEFENDER 2.5 TDI D.94/H.98 SI 4 2495 121 Manual Webasto 621BL15100EB+623BL90C
DEFENDER 2.5 TDI TD5 D.99/H.06 SI 5 2495 120 Manual Webasto 621BL18800EB+623BL90C

According to this site below they are for left hand drive. From that site they are 2110.00 EUR plus shipping.

Parking heaters Webasto Eberspacher

It looks like this apparently. Pretty similar to the Diavia kit installed on 94 NAS D90s except the controls are on the fascia. A slimmer design for more knee room than the Elite/RN/Britpart ones so I'd probably go for one of these if I was buying a new one.
This is the same type we installed in our 1983 110, but had to make the brackets for the compressor on the 200TDI because I added a 200 Amp alternator.
So they are still available from Webasto?
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Old July 13th, 2016, 12:26 PM
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Yeah, looks like they're still available.
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it has the drain, and the drain does drain. I don't know where the hell the rest of the condensation is coming from. I've contorted myself to apply silicone all over the 2 lines coming into the underdash unit from the engine bay to seal it off.

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The earlier style Andrew posted up were much better for trapping and draining the condensation run off.
I'll get some pictures of the dash controls in the front center gauge panel.
Had to shift the 2 gauges 3/16" to the left to provide room for the AC controls that fit nicely in the center dash gauge/switch panel.
The panel is milled down so the control legend plastic rectangle is recessed providing room for the threaded portion of the switch neck to come through.
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Old July 13th, 2016, 12:51 PM
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The earlier style Andrew posted up were much better for trapping and draining the condensation run off.
I'll get some pictures of the dash controls in the front center gauge panel.
Had to shift the 2 gauges 3/16" to the left to provide room for the AC controls that fit nicely in the center dash gauge/switch panel.
AC is pretty much the one thing I can't do by myself. AC evacuation is not a DIY garage tool. Otherwise, I'd pull that unit out and silicone the living crap out of that thing so it was hermetically sealed
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AC is pretty much the one thing I can't do by myself. AC evacuation is not a DIY garage tool. Otherwise, I'd pull that unit out and silicone the living crap out of that thing so it was hermetically sealed
You could go to a garage that has a R134A recycling machine and have the system sucked down.
Do your work, take it back, have them put a vacuum pump on it and refill the unit.
The oil would most likely stay in the compressor, so you'd be OK.
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Has anyone tried one of the kits Britpart supplies? It looks like the same exact thing RN sells.

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I just ordered a BA5001 RHD 300tdi kit for my ground-up rebuild. Sadly, I won't be able to really use it this year by the time the vehicle is on the road, but I'll have it when it's nasty hot next year (topped 100F here yesterday with >50% humidity).
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I just ordered a BA5001 RHD 300tdi kit for my ground-up rebuild. Sadly, I won't be able to really use it this year by the time the vehicle is on the road, but I'll have it when it's nasty hot next year (topped 100F here yesterday with >50% humidity).
I hear ya..
Last night was running the AC unit for short intervals while working on the controls in the 110 just to keep the sweat from stinging my eyes so I could finish up.

Last year was even thinking of hooking our inverter to run a portable 115 AC unit and strapping it in the back of the 110 with the exhaust hose running out of the small back window panel replaced with plexiglass just for some quick relief.
Decided it was too hillbilly and not professional... was still tempting though.
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AC is pretty much the one thing I can't do by myself. AC evacuation is not a DIY garage tool. Otherwise, I'd pull that unit out and silicone the living crap out of that thing so it was hermetically sealed
You can recapture yourself, just get the tank and lines.

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CoolAir Logan (CAL) provides the AC units that RN sells on their sites. They have a 300TDI kit already and are developing a 200TDI kit now. My 1991 200TDI truck is currently in the CAL workshop in the UK having their unit installed. Will be done on Friday. It is the first truck they are installing their new 200TDI kit on. It will be a month or two before I can provide feedback on performance but I will send some photos when I get them. They have been incredibly helpful throughout the process.

Not sure if CAL will sell direct to consumers in the US or if RN is their exclusive distributor. I will tell you that I paid significantly less than what RN charges for the unit.
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You can recapture yourself, just get the tank and lines.

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yep- I have tank lines and pump. Works ok, but I can only pull so much vacuum on the tank.
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It looks like if ordered on that site in Poland, the two part numbers on the first line for tdi (I'm guessing 300tdi based on what shows up in google) come to about $2300 before freight. I tried to place an order, with just one item, because at first I didn't realize that I needed two "kits" but it appears that whoever built their shopping cart is storing phone numbers in a 32bit integer, and that number only goes as high as a number in Dallas, TX, so I have a feeling they will have a hard time contacting me. 214-748-3647 - Most Common Phone Number? | The Mary Sue

Maybe when they cannot contact me via telephone to quote the freight, they will e-mail me.
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You could go to a garage that has a R134A recycling machine and have the system sucked down.
Do your work, take it back, have them put a vacuum pump on it and refill the unit.
The oil would most likely stay in the compressor, so you'd be OK.
I may just do that. but not in July-Aug!

------ Follow up post added July 13th, 2016 02:44 PM ------

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CoolAir Logan (CAL) provides the AC units that RN sells on their sites. They have a 300TDI kit already and are developing a 200TDI kit now. My 1991 200TDI truck is currently in the CAL workshop in the UK having their unit installed. Will be done on Friday. It is the first truck they are installing their new 200TDI kit on. It will be a month or two before I can provide feedback on performance but I will send some photos when I get them. They have been incredibly helpful throughout the process.

Not sure if CAL will sell direct to consumers in the US or if RN is their exclusive distributor. I will tell you that I paid significantly less than what RN charges for the unit.
Hold the phone. My AC is CoolAir. So it seems it is not an Elite unit.
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This site shows the Webasto unit for Tdi in stock. They do list United States as a delivery country, but looks like you need to contact them for a shipping price. This supplier deducts VAT from the price too. If you order from a different supplier make sure they do as well.

https://www.koberger-hamburg.de/diav...0-2-5-tdl.html
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now is the best time ever in all the time there ever was to buy anything in sterling or euro. I'll bet webasto quality is much, much better than coolair
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now is the best time ever in all the time there ever was to buy anything in sterling or euro. I'll bet webasto quality is much, much better than coolair
Wow. Should be something like $1750 + shipping. Not too shaby. We should try to get some pics

Im going to have my buddy who lives in Poland call these guys
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This is the same type we installed in our 1983 110, but had to make the brackets for the compressor on the 200TDI because I added a 200 Amp alternator.
So they are still available from Webasto?
Pics of the Webasto Diavia AC kit installed? Curious what the interior vent system looks like.
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Email response from Webasto in Spain

Good aftenoon:
The Price of the unit is 1.060,50€ but we don't have it on stock.
Do you want me to talk with our supplier for the delivery term?

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The Price of the unit is 1.060,50€ but we don't have it on stock.
Do you want me to talk with our supplier for the delivery term?
Was that for part numbers 621BL15100EB and 623BL90C? I'm making assumptions here so I could be wrong, but it looks to me like they have one kit for the stuff inside the vehicle and one kit for the stuff that goes under the bonnet.

If that's the total for everything, I'd ask them to order me one up right now. That's cheaper than what people ask for used.
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Good aftenoon:
The Price of the unit is 1.060,50€ but we don't have it on stock.
Do you want me to talk with our supplier for the delivery term?

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