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Old May 18th, 2006, 12:21 PM
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Electric Windows for my 90

Where can I find some good proven kit or thing like that to upgrade my 90

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Old May 18th, 2006, 12:36 PM
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I am 99.999% sure that it is an option on the newer Defenders.
Found it
http://www.landrover.com/gb/en/Vehic...nfoBlockLink_4

Maybe call George @ RDS and see if he can get you a set of used doors that have what you want?
http://www.roversdownsouth.com/defender.htm

Or maybe someone will post up a kit
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Old May 18th, 2006, 01:10 PM
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George @ RDS used to carry those, I've sent an e-mail but I got no answer yet.

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Old May 18th, 2006, 01:38 PM
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Pat, Keep searching here. I know there are aftermarket optionsthat are actually cheaper than the stock manual regulators.

Looking at the LR link you posted, it is laughable;

1. They still use the crappy rear seats on the 110. Totally uncomfortable!
2. They don't have electric windows for the rear!
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Old May 18th, 2006, 11:06 PM
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I've been contemplating the same thing. Falcon 4x4 offers electric windows as well as remote door locks for the 90/110. They are currently out of stock though.
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Old May 19th, 2006, 09:47 AM
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I believe that kit is from a company in Italy called SPAL. I just received a set and will get them installed in the next few weeks. I have to put in some new window tracks, etc. Figured I would just overhaul the door since I am already in there. I will post some pics when I am done. The kit was $158, which included the motors, switches and wiring harness.

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Old May 19th, 2006, 10:57 AM
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Hi Mark
the set you received was the Falcon4x4 kit right?
Please post pictures,
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Old May 19th, 2006, 11:03 AM
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Pat,

I did not order from Falcon 4x4 - I ordered a set from A1 Electric - I believe it is the same kit that Falcon sells.
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Old May 19th, 2006, 12:09 PM
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Pat,

I did not order from Falcon 4x4 - I ordered a set from A1 Electric - I believe it is the same kit that Falcon sells.
Did you order a universal kit? I can't find one specific to Land Rover on their site.
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Old May 19th, 2006, 12:14 PM
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About a year ago I installed electric windows in my Defender. My roll up windows had bit the dust and buying new roll up mechanisms was $$$$. I searched Ebay and found a company selling a window kit for pretty cheap. I think I ended up paying less than $100 I think around $89. Anyway the it installed with just a bit of fabrication to mount the motor. Just some drilling and cutting. It took about 5 hours. The window motors are very strong and I have had the truck on some pretty long bumpy washboard trails and they hold up great.

The only drawback to the system I used is that because of the length of the track that the window rides on is so long it does not allow you to roll the window all the way down. I have 2-3 inches of glass still showing when the window is rooled down all the way.

This is the kit I bought off Ebay. Overall I am very happy with the system.
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Old May 19th, 2006, 12:56 PM
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. . . The only drawback to the system I used is that because of the length of the track that the window rides on is so long it does not allow you to roll the window all the way down. I have 2-3 inches of glass still showing when the window is rolled down all the way.
That would be a deal breaker for me. I have a broader than average frame, and given the "ergonomics" of the Defender, I need to have that window all the way down.
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Old May 19th, 2006, 01:22 PM
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That would be a deal breaker for me. I have a broader than average frame, and given the "ergonomics" of the Defender, I need to have that window all the way down.

You probably want to find one with a scissor lift mechanism then.
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Old May 19th, 2006, 02:00 PM
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You probably want to find one with a scissor lift mechanism then.
I think the SPAL system uses the existing lifter, and actually winds the shaft.
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I think the SPAL system uses the existing lifter, and actually winds the shaft.
The mechanisms in both my doors were shot and rusted beyond use so I had to go with something totaly new. That should work good for you. Enjoy the power windows.
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Old May 19th, 2006, 03:24 PM
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Spalding, is the kit you are talking about the Deluxe Power Window Kit (3300-0030)? Keep us posted on that install. I have always been interested in power windows, as I hate my leg jamming up against the crank handle and not being able to reach the passenger window crank.
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Old May 19th, 2006, 03:27 PM
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The SPAL kit seems the way to go. Super easy to install and maintains full motion.

I hope the LR crank is "typical" as the SPAL just works off that.

Here's an installation in a Civic. Again, really easy.

http://www.crxsi.com/resources/spal/
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The SPAL kit seems the way to go. Super easy to install and maintains full motion.

I hope the LR crank is "typical" as the SPAL just works off that.

Here's an installation in a Civic. Again, really easy.

http://www.crxsi.com/resources/spal/

Be aware that the LR crank mechanisms are notorious for falling apart at the most inoportune times. That is one of the reasons I went with a system totaly indipendent of the LR mechanism.
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Old May 19th, 2006, 04:17 PM
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What about this? I've got the picture time ago from an eBay auction (UK) I don't know its brand, may be 4x4falcon? I've red no everyone is good, so far I'm a bit confused about the best option...

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Old May 19th, 2006, 04:18 PM
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Spalding, is the kit you are talking about the Deluxe Power Window Kit (3300-0030)? Keep us posted on that install. I have always been interested in power windows, as I hate my leg jamming up against the crank handle and not being able to reach the passenger window crank.
I'm not quite there yet. My gut tells me to bide my time and go with the kit offered by Falcon 4x4. On their site they specify a kit for the Defender. On the A-1 Electric site, Land Rover isn't mentioned anywhere. It is only an assumtion that Falcon's offering is the SPAL kit.

Luckily, Mark (mgrgpg) has graciously volunteered his truck as test mule, and we can look forward with eagerness to his feedback.

I've been toying with the idea of retrofitting a late model center dash fascia, so that I can use factory switches for the windows, and get the stereo up on the dash. Then I could use the current stereo real estate on the console for a two-way radio, or switches for lights, compressor, lockers, ejector seat, etc.. I bought one recently on eBay. But now that I have it in my hands, I don't think it can be adapted to my NAS dashboard without some serious hacking. And I have this thing about making irreversible mods. So I'm still mulling that one over.
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SPAL Window Kit

Took a while but i finally had a chance to put the window kit in.

Pics attached of the install. Was really straight forward as far as the mechanicals. All the parts fit from the kit, I just needed to trim some mounting brackets to make it all fit under the door trim. Took about 1 hour to do the install less the electrical. I left the electric hook up for my stereo installer, was not confident in finding an ignition circuit beefy enough.

I pulled my clock out of the dash and put the switches there so both driver and passenger can reach.

Works great - while I was at it I replaced all the window tracks and winding mechanisms.
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