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Old October 27th, 2013, 04:16 PM
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E break ,need help

I've been working on 1986 ROW 90, the E break is locked up and won't release, any suggestions? I unbolted the handel from the seat box and adjusted the cable, but the cable does not move very much. Do I need a new cable and can I release the E break so I can drive it,

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Old October 27th, 2013, 04:38 PM
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Time to get under the truck and release the drum.
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Old October 27th, 2013, 05:19 PM
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Old October 27th, 2013, 05:34 PM
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Old October 27th, 2013, 06:35 PM
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If you go under you can unscrew the adjustment until the whole unit releases.
Then go for a drive and check for drag.
If there is drag, further adjustment is required and so on until no drag.
When I park, I leave it in gear unless am parked on a steep slope.
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Old October 27th, 2013, 06:38 PM
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just to add some detail to mr. davis's post, the screw he is describing is a square head located on the parking brake drum on the transfer case side.

http://forums.lr4x4.com/uploads/1190...363_631459.jpg
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Old October 28th, 2013, 05:11 PM
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Thanks for the info, worked like a charm,
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Old October 29th, 2013, 10:21 AM
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Time to switch to X Engineering X-brake
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Old October 29th, 2013, 10:31 AM
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Ok, I'll bite, what is x- brake?
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Old October 29th, 2013, 10:34 AM
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Ok, I'll bite, what is x- brake?
a waste of $ IMO
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It changes the drum E brake to a disc. Never gets clogged or stuck. Holds better on hills in my opinion. Mine used to stick all the time and never held well (despite multiple adjustments) on mild or steep inclines. Now no problems. Each to their own. I like it and it was worth it.
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Old October 29th, 2013, 09:54 PM
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Where would I find one if these x brakes in the USA?
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Old October 29th, 2013, 10:13 PM
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Here's one place

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Haha, now you see why I say not worth the $! It will take you a couple hours to break down your trans brake but it is a simple brake drum system. More than likely clean it replace a couple pcs of hardware bolt it back up and it will be ready to go. The X-brake conceptually is a great idea but to say that it doesn't get dirty and that it works better then the stock assembly is a bunch of crap! If anything I have seen more x brake style brakes left on the side of the trail after getting knocked off by a rock. I have drug my close to thirty pound drum across many rocks and have come out unscathed. If you want a cool bolt on $600 kit go with x brake it will work and work well, or learn a little about your truck and fix the simple drum assembly that has worked for thousands of ppl for I don't know fifty years or so.
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I did learn about my truck. I did work on the E brake. I didn't pay that much for it. I have literally carried my drum brake due to a failure. I have had to disassemble and repair the drum brake more times than I want so I went with something different. Good for the others I like what I have.
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I did learn about my truck. I did work on the E brake. I didn't pay that much for it. I have literally carried my drum brake due to a failure. I have had to disassemble and repair the drum brake more times than I want so I went with something different. Good for the others I like what I have.
why are your panties in a wad dude, it's great that you like the product I'm not saying don't use it. What I am saying is that if your advice is to rip something off your truck before he even knows what is wrong with it to put a $500 or $600 replacement is ludicrous. Do you replace the calipers when your pads run out? My comments where directed to the gentleman that is having the issue, you clearly have your truck figured out. Take a breath, your advice to him was the X brake, my advice was to learn a little about how it works and to make his own decision. Sorry to piss you off, it's a forum for ppl to post ways to resolve issues, and not every time do you have to go out and spend hundreds of dollars to fix what is probably at bad cable that cost $15-$20. Either way cave dude good luck with your brake if you have any questions about how it works feel free to pm me and I can walk you through diagnosing what is wrong with it.
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Old October 30th, 2013, 08:33 AM
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The Drum brake is just fine. What makes it go wrong is disuse. The linkages need to be free of rust and lubricated. The shoes should be checked every so often to be sure the lining is still glued on and not worn thin. That's about all you need to do.
Full disclosure, I put an Xbrake on the 109 cz the deal was too good to pass up and the bracketry is hard to come by for the LT230, if you don't have it.
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Old October 30th, 2013, 12:05 PM
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Sorry man was having a pissy moment due to work stuff. Took it out on your post and took it personally. Yes learning about your truck is very important to getting home. And as I said I was frustrated with the drum brake and had a great opportunity to try something else.
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Sorry man was having a pissy moment due to work stuff. Took it out on your post and took it personally. Yes learning about your truck is very important to getting home. And as I said I was frustrated with the drum brake and had a great opportunity to try something else.
no worries my man, my manstration starts next week. Just be happy you didn't get me during my time of the month
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Hahahahaha fair enough.
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