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Old September 7th, 2010, 11:02 PM
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Dynabeads or Equal ?

Want to try something else. Opinions or experiences to share ?
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Old September 7th, 2010, 11:10 PM
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running dynabeads in my 37" Irok on my d2 and they work well, not sure how well they'll work in a colder environment, but out here in the oven, I have zero issues and really can't tell the different between this set up and wheelweights...
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Oh man.

Don't waste your money. Equal was the worst thing I ever bought for my truck. I'm kind of pissed that EE still sells this stuff and markets it like it's good. It sucks.

$75 for the equal
$30 to get the tires remounted with the Equal
30 minutes trying to air down my Equal-filled tires at SCARR
Four weeks driving around on the most awfully-behaved unbalanced tires.
$30 to get the Equal vacuumed out of the tires and get them re-balanced with weights.

So, roughly $135 down the drain plus several hours wasted.

I could have bought two nice bottles of port for that.
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Old September 8th, 2010, 12:09 AM
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good points Chris...I guess I should have added I'm running Powertank's Monster Valves also...
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Old September 8th, 2010, 12:20 AM
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I used dynabeads in 235/85 muds for a while with nothing but delight. I believe they work best with narrow tires though.
I rotate 6 through and have had no problems. I used to have issues throwing weights on washboard, but now no balancing issues ever for many miles on bad roads.
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Old September 8th, 2010, 12:39 AM
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Chris my brother Cabell is running equal and bitches about slow airing down but he hasn't been following the instructions that say put some air in the tire first to clear the valve stem screen. I have seen a couple of complaints about Equal but none for the dynabeads. Steve and Frank thanks for the feed back. Any suggestions for who sells dynabeads ?
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Old September 8th, 2010, 02:01 AM
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I've run both. Had no problems with equal and airing down. Dynabeads are the same in my experience. I did all the installation myself. It's quick, easy, and works great. Dynabeads are slightly bigger in size of beads. You can install dynabeads without removing the tire. You can also do the same with equal. Equal worked great for balancing in my old 285/75s and dynabeads are still working great for balancing in 255/85s. I'd recommend either.
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Old September 8th, 2010, 06:36 AM
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I've ran both. I'm back to lead weights now, if that tells you anything.

The beads were ok. I ran them in 35x13.50 BFG Krawlers on beadlocks, and I ran them on the LR3. They were fine. However, there is nothing better than lead weights. They may get ripped off every-so-often off-road, but it's a much better ride.

If you wants some beads to try, Doug, drop me a note.
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I ran Equal for about 4 years, Put them in my 255/75/16 BFG KM1s when I first installed them. Balance was great until this year, then I started picking up a vibration that I couldn't shake. ( I was also gone for military deployment for 1.5 of those 4 years). Thought it was driveline, but it was the tires. I rotated them, and it didn't resolve the issue. It was a minor vibration but annoying for long trips.

I called the tech support of Equal, and they said that Equal was never intended for passenger car/light duty truck. It was for commercial big rig applications, and that they don't test or warranty the product on light duty applications. They said the tires have to be much bigger/heavier than light duty size for equal to work properly.

After that call, I had all 5 tires vaccumed and ballanced with lead weights. I'll be sticking with that.
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Crosman Airsoft BB's. cheap, won't rust or clump, and work exceptionally well. I can drive down the highway with my hands off the wheel and get no wiggles with 285/75-16 SSR's.

http://www.crosman.com/airsoft/ammo/SAP5020
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Chris my brother Cabell is running equal and bitches about slow airing down but he hasn't been following the instructions that say put some air in the tire first to clear the valve stem screen. I have seen a couple of complaints about Equal but none for the dynabeads. Steve and Frank thanks for the feed back. Any suggestions for who sells dynabeads ?


I have been running dynabeads on like 4 or 5 different tire combinations from 285s to two different sets of 36s and I love them. I have a lot of experience trying to balance large wheel tire setups with lead weights and its tough to get right and you have to redo it often, for me the beads have eliminated that. Ive never had an issue airing down the only drawback is if you change wheels or tires you are basically gonna lose those beads. I had equal in a set of tires and it clumped which is worse than no balancing if you ask me. I bought another setup with steel bbs in them and didnt like them, never tried the plastic since I have had success with the dynabeads.... Justin (Lucky8) sells them
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My Harley fatboy had Dynabeads so I know they work well in small/bike tires. I have a set of 285 Km 2's that I now have 23k on. The tires were on alloys and balanced fine. They took a lot more weight when I put them on the Wolf/Nato/130 wheels and I think I'd like to try the beads to see if I can regain some ride quality- and squeeze another 15k out of these great tires. Thanks for the heads up I'll call Justin.

Do Dyna Beads require special valve steams like equal ?
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Do Dyna Beads require special valve steams like equal ?
According to Innovative Balancing, yes:

http://www.innovativebalancing.com/service.htm
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Doug,
I have about 50lbs of beads. You're welcome to whatever you need. Just let me know.
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Old September 8th, 2010, 02:25 PM
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Dan,
Looks like I need about 32 oz's per Dyna Bead. I need more stickers from you anyway. Email coming your way.
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My Harley fatboy had Dynabeads so I know they work well in small/bike tires. I have a set of 285 Km 2's that I now have 23k on. The tires were on alloys and balanced fine. They took a lot more weight when I put them on the Wolf/Nato/130 wheels and I think I'd like to try the beads to see if I can regain some ride quality- and squeeze another 15k out of these great tires. Thanks for the heads up I'll call Justin.

Do Dyna Beads require special valve steams like equal ?
The correct beads do not require the special valve cores but I used to run them anyway. I dont now and have no problems.
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Old September 15th, 2010, 01:43 PM
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Dan,
Got the beads today. Many thanks. Had to call Innovative and ask where the hell the 5 valve stems and other stuff I ordered last week is. Hopefully will be on the road with that setup on Friday.
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Doug, you could get a set of these...

http://www.powertank.com/products/sfID1/15

Monster Valves...I run them on my Irok's and can deflate to 10 psi in about 40 seconds, refill in about 1 minute...

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Looks like a neat product Frank- but the other folks already have my money
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I like the look of those monster valves, but they look like they would be pretty easy to tear up on the trail.
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