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Old November 17th, 2009, 07:38 AM
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Gustavo,
I approach this question as I would a boat. Having rewired several boats I have some experience with multiple battery installation and 12V power.You have different "banks" for your power needs. You have a start bank of course and also a "house" bank that you use for your accessory power needs such as winches, inverters, computers, audio, video, whatever. You will isolate those loads from the start load as you want to have the start bank be independent from your other loads so that no matter what you always have a full start battery.
In order to do this, you will want to wire all those items to a separate load system (with common ground of course) In order to charge the house battery, you will need a Yandina Voltage Sensing Relay which will "bleed" excess charging power from the house battery to the start battery. Why primarily charge the house battery? The start battery is only discharged for very short bursts and usually does not get run down appreciably. The house battery on the other hand may become deeply discharged as you use accessories without the engine running. Cycling deep discharges requires high power recharging when back on the alternator .
In addition to the Voltage sensing relay, you may want to consider a "smart" alternator controller (Balmar, Xantrex) which will automatically sense the needs of the battery and adjust alternator output accordingly.

I would suggest for your house bank that you use a marine deep cycle AGM battery such as the Deka Marine Master or the Die Hard Marine AGM. Either a Group 27 or even a 4D would be ideal for powering a winch or overnighting with lights, TV and Wii going full blast. AGMs will mount in any position (even upside down) and tend to last longer than spiral batteries in deep cycle applications.

Be sure to size your cables as big as you can. Minimum cabling for the battery leads will be 2 or larger. Genuinedealz.com sells marine grade wire, cable,connectors, and accessories for clean nautical grade installation. Let me know if you need further assistance.
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Old November 17th, 2009, 08:18 AM
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Since my only considerations have been running my Xenons when needed and the superwinch, I recently converted back from two yellow Optimas running parallel to just one BIG Odyssey. (My second set of two Optimas in 4 years made me disillusioned with Optimas)
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Old November 17th, 2009, 12:37 PM
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I have a question related to Battery set up and TDI's. Currently my Aux electricity turns on at the same time the glow plugs turns on when I turn the ignition. This doesn't seem like a good idea. On my last camping trip I was using the 12v jack for external power but I wasn't too happy about having to leave the glow plugs on for that long. Shouldn't it be so that the aux electricity turns on a step before the glow plugs when turning the ignition?

Also, using the glow plugs. Option or Mandatory? I seem to be able to start just fine without them. Will I harm the engine by not waiting the 5-10 seconds before starting?

Changing the subject. Sorry.
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Old November 17th, 2009, 12:55 PM
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Defenders do not have an auxiliary position. Wire the 12V sockets to unswitched power.
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Will I harm the engine by not waiting the 5-10 seconds before starting?

It helps the engine to warm the glow plugs. Highly recommended. Prolly won't hurt unless you have poor stating in cold weather and sit there with the key turned all the way, cranking the engine with nothing happening...THAT will tear up your starter among other things.
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