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Old December 22nd, 2010, 08:46 AM
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 08:49 AM
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To add some substance to this thread and not just hijack, I also got the opportunity to drive my D90 in the snow for the first time last week and overall was pleased with how it handled...the only thing I noticed was a little understeer in the hairpins near my house but that could be a direct reflection of my driving as I was trying to see if I could get it to fishtail instead! Ran the truck without CDL engaged. FWIW, running 285/75 BFG AT's
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 09:13 AM
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Jefhuf, you think that our 110 are under powered for sliding the tail out? Maybe a 200tdi isn't able to slide the tail. All I know is when I floor it, it slide sideway front and rear. I always thought it should slide like my gf subaru ; 60-40..
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 09:25 AM
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To add some substance to this thread and not just hijack, I also got the opportunity to drive my D90 in the snow for the first time last week and overall was pleased with how it handled...the only thing I noticed was a little understeer in the hairpins near my house but that could be a direct reflection of my driving as I was trying to see if I could get it to fishtail instead! Ran the truck without CDL engaged. FWIW, running 285/75 BFG AT's
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 09:33 AM
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Its fun taking the 90 through the car wash. I get to play dodge the spray coming in through the gaps in the top.
Haha - so true. Although I've been recently bringing it to the one where it goes driverless - they do a slightly better job. For some reason auto car wash places don't know how to clean the inside of a 90. They go thru my Suburban and it comes out great while the interior of the 90 looks barely touched.
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Just go easy on the gas and you'll do fine. I do prefer to have the CLD on (even in 1-2 inches). Last year (when DC got pounded) I went out before the plows came through w/ no problems with fr/rr lockers on.

I also wanted to test out the oversized Nitto tires we put on the wife's lr3. I was surprised how well it did in the really deep stuff.
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"really? I usually found open center diff was better until the snow got pretty thick, I could be wrong "

I find any Land Rover off road or in slippery conditions to be pretty worthless without the center diff locked. the 50/50 split of power to front and rear axles makes traction much better. without it you are mostly rear wheel drive. I wouldn't put it in low range unless the snow was very deep, but high range with the diff locked I think is the way to go.
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 09:52 AM
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once there is enough snow to fill the tread on my tires i lock the center diff. I slip a lot less that way, at least w/ my driving habits. But I don't lock the fr/rr unless the snow is alot deeper.
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Its fun taking the 90 through the car wash. I get to play dodge the spray coming in through the gaps in the top.
That is not fun at all when your phone wallet and iPod are all getting blasted with water.
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yeah been thinking of adding a dixie horn to the 90 just for you!

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Jefhuf, you think that our 110 are under powered for sliding the tail out? Maybe a 200tdi isn't able to slide the tail. All I know is when I floor it, it slide sideway front and rear. I always thought it should slide like my gf subaru ; 60-40..
I don't think it is a power issue but rather just a drivetrain issue
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 01:15 PM
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I'll add my .02,

Let's see, this is winter number eight in Maine, and although three of them were very mild, the rest were big snow-makers. Without a doubt, when driving the 90, I much prefer to have the road unplowed with two or more inches of snow on it. The 90 handles that like a champ.

However, that's not usually the case. Once the DOT gets to work, and starts plowing and dumping that damned salt, it makes things much worse. Depending on temperature, it either creates this greasy slush-like solution that's like driving on butter, or it partially freezes thus creating a wonderful glazed-over-packed-snow-ice combination. Either of these is no fun to drive on. Any kind of speed going around a corner, and you'll end up in the ditch, diff-lock or not. Slow and steady wins the race here.

The 110 is a totally different animal, and handles much better. I still don't drive fast though, because you never know what the other idiots on the road are going to do. Then there's the whole needing to stop suddenly to avoid the moose on a pretty consistant basis....

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Haha - so true. Although I've been recently bringing it to the one where it goes driverless - they do a slightly better job. For some reason auto car wash places don't know how to clean the inside of a 90. They go thru my Suburban and it comes out great while the interior of the 90 looks barely touched.
They won't let mine through because of the tire size and jumping the track
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 11:39 PM
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My 90 has done great in all this winter weather and has yet to slide on the snow. Had a cold snap today of 67 down from 79 yesterday.

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Not a 90, but I drive the Series year-round in upstate NY. I've got a terrible set of Firestone radials - and when I say radials, I mean total street tires. They came with the truck and plenty of tread and I've been too cheap to put a new set on (though I may just bite the bullet for a set of BFG ATs this winter). Anyhow, our place there is literally on a mountain, plowing is spotty, but I'll drive the hell outta that thing up and down all winter. Once you lock in that Series transfer case it really is quite unbelievable even with the worst set of tires known to man.
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When I first got mine, it was atrocious in the snow. I was sliding sideways through stop signs at 2mph, and all that fun stuff. But once those michelins came off and the current set of coopers went on, it's a whole different animal. If I really stomp the gas I can get the back end to break loose, but otherwise it's very solid. Other than the fact it snows inside the truck more than outside, and it's so damned hard to clean deep snow out from the winch, brush guard and roll cage.... I have no qualms about snow with mine.

Now, my old CJ on the other hand..... death on 4 wheels. God I hate those front-shackle suspensions on leaf sprung jeeps.

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Old December 23rd, 2010, 10:25 PM
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They won't let mine through because of the tire size and jumping the track
Haha, I forgot to mention that last time thru I had a little incident. The roller that pushes the tire that pushed the vehicle got stuck and my 90 stopped. The next car in line went into the rear tire and cracked the grille. I'm a little worried that next i go I will not be allowed thru.
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Mark,

If you're sliding or fishtailing you have lost control of your car. This is most likely happening since you're not familiar with your new vehicle. Once you're familiar with it you'll know exactly where that limit is. An experienced off-roader told me that 90% is behind the wheel. It's true but there are a couple of factors that will improve your ability. Full time 4-wheel drive, correct tire brand and pressure, weight and driver ability are all important determining factors in snow driving. I grew up in Sweden driving all kinds of cars in adverse snow conditions so I am very familiar with it. I love driving in snow storms. In my childhood during one of my most memorable snow storms they parked a tank in our drive way, as the army was out to deliver food to people. Needless to say it made an impression.

The BFG AT's are excellent in the snow although I don't have much experience with other Rover tires. The 90 is a bit light in the rear, especially if you have a soft top (since you're in Ireland I assume you don't). 300-400 lbs in the rear would certainly help. I haven't driven a 110 in snow but I can see why it would behave better than a 90. Even so the 90 is excellent on ice and snow if you know how to drive it and you have the right tires, pressure and weight. I drive on ice roads every time I go up to the mountain to snow board and I often pass people struggling to go up the icy hill.

I recently went on Rover run up to Triangulation Point here in the Tillamook Forest, Oregon (see attached picture). It was certainly test of my winter driving skills. 2 out of 7 Rovers chose to/were able to reach the top.
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We all forgot the most obvious thing. Go to Home Depot and pick up 1-2 of those tube sand bags and throw them in the back of the 90. I do it for my 88, works like a charm - and again I'm running the worst tires known to man year-round. Though I'm going to upgrade to BFG ATs this season.
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They won't let mine through because of the tire size and jumping the track
I went through the local (to my 'rents) place today after some convincing with only 32's... they really had the biggest problem with the RHD...
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