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Old February 25th, 2014, 10:54 PM
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Driven your NAS D90 300Tdi to Mexico & returned

I'd love to drive down into Mexico with my NAS '97 rig with it's 300Tdi conversion. My concern is about being stopped by US Customs upon re-entry into the US.

With all the posts regarding USA EPA, legal engines, I am wondering if anyone has experience driving their converted 1990's NAS 300Tdi into Mexico and had any issues driving it back into the USA ???

Seem's to me this could be a big problem IF US Customs are aware of the potential to having a conversion done to a NAS in Mex & then return to the US with an illegal power plant under the hood.

Experiences anyone ??
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Old February 25th, 2014, 11:02 PM
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Crossed the border many times in elpaso. Never had them look under the hood. Mainly in a 2008 gwagon but don't feel like a defender would have been treated any different. Plenty of mirrors and dogs, but never opened up more than the doors.
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Old February 25th, 2014, 11:13 PM
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There are not that many diesel engines down here to start with, so if you can get your hands on a 300 TDi, and find a mechanic that won't shaft you... I would say go for it, but with the possibility of getting the latest "Ford Puma 2.2 TDi" directly from a dealership, a 300 is not a way I would go. Both Defenders and Ford Transits have the 2.2 in them, with minor differences to allow the Defender to deal with crappy diesel from anywhere in the world... Just my two cents
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Old February 25th, 2014, 11:47 PM
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True, but sometimes crossing an entire country in a car with a questionable engine (there must be a reason you're looking for a replacement!) Is not much of an appetizing prospect. If you are close to Arizona, I can make sure you are treated properly at any of the Ford dealerships we own in Sonora (border state with Az). Of course, Mexico is getting a bad wrap in the news, but if you come my way, it's not as bad as the news maket it out to be. Just a thought
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Old February 25th, 2014, 11:53 PM
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I've been thinking about this, too, but slightly more ambitious: what if you shipped your truck to some place like Australia for an extended vacation and then shipped it back. Would Customs see the Texas plates and wave it on through or would the galvanized frame and shiny hinge bolts warrant deeper inspection?

I know that Graham Jackson shipped a NAS 110 to Africa for a trip and brought it back but that was a long time ago and a straightforward US-spec truck.
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Old February 26th, 2014, 01:00 AM
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I think Dennis already has a 300TDi in his truck. He's saying he doesn't want customs to think he's trying to import it.
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Old February 26th, 2014, 01:31 AM
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Dear Dennis: I'm waiting for you! Go ahead, make my day. Thanks for the heads up! Your local EPA border agent.
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Old February 26th, 2014, 01:50 AM
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As a point of reference, Jack Quinlan (JSQ here) takes his 1980s 110 with 300Tdi to Mexico and back regularly.
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night and day difference between importing and re-entry...
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Old February 26th, 2014, 06:54 AM
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Glad to hear this. Was a concern for me too.
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I think Dennis already has a 300TDi in his truck. He's saying he doesn't want customs to think he's trying to import it.
BINGO !!! This is what I'm asking for experience in.

I did not think that my original post was unclear.
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Old February 26th, 2014, 11:17 AM
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BINGO !!! This is what I'm asking for experience in.

I did not think that my original post was unclear.
about the only way you could potentially run into an issue is if your registration says gas fuel and the officer is standing next to a dieseling truck.
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about the only way you could potentially run into an issue is if your registration says gas fuel and the officer is standing next to a dieseling truck.
Yes that's the part I was wondering about as I know the fuel type is coded into the VIN, and THAT can't be altered. But my registration does spell out that diesel as the fuel. I had my local DMV change my fuel type after the conversion in 2001.
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Yes that's the part I was wondering about as I know the fuel type is coded into the VIN.
so do they do a vin lookup or just check the paper registration? I need to get this cleared up before I go to central america in next 2-3 years.

------ Follow up post added February 26th, 2014 12:10 PM ------

And in NC, I'm registered as a diesel by the state, even though a vin lookup would say V8 for manufacturer. so I'm wondering which result they would get.
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I have done it quite a few times- a NAS diesel conversion over the border- both north and south, and never had an issue. And I would find it odd for them to decipher the VIN at the border for a re-entry. This is not a port/entry/import scenario…
But that is just my experiences.

Hey Mark, we overlapped on that post. But, just because NC gives a 'by' on diesel repower- any diesel replacement for the record, it doesn't get us a 'by' federally…

To show the inconsistency with the laws, as they haven't been updated/changed yet, you could buy a new F-250 petrol, substitute in a diesel, and not be held to the emissions as if you had started with a factory diesel- in NC. Federally, a different game all together. Very frustrating- then add in the question at hand crossing international borders, and it gets waaaay messy.
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if your registration matches your truck non issue as stated above
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I drive my defender all over mexico with out any issues. just use common sense.
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I drive my defender all over mexico with out any issues. just use common sense.
I think he's referring to the non-original engine getting back into the country.

We're not allowed to have new vehicles like you guys.
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