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Old November 27th, 2012, 08:15 PM
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downward travel

RTE 3 inch springs
Bilstein 7100 12 inch shocks
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Great Basin Double Cardon front drive shaft
RTE cranked Radius arms
Bottom sping retainers
No sway bar
4+brake lines

???should one use limit straps and not let the front springs disslocate.

or should one use front dislocation cones and let the front drop a bit with limit straps.


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Old November 27th, 2012, 08:31 PM
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Are you running 12" shocks front and rear? I am running 10" Fox shocks in the front of my truck with the RTE towers (although with 2.5" lift) and I can drop the front axle far enough to get beyond my cones. That being said, I don't believe straps should be necessary
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Old November 27th, 2012, 08:32 PM
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What's the issue? Depends on what you want the axle to do. I'm for articulation and a limit strap if you are worried. I don't use cones in front as the shock helps locate the spring.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 08:42 PM
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As a follow up to my post, I did this a couple weeks ago...not sure if the spring would have gone back or not without the cones
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Old November 27th, 2012, 08:55 PM
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Retain the springs top and bottom.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 08:56 PM
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Old November 27th, 2012, 09:08 PM
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you are correct...that is how we fixed it!
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Old November 27th, 2012, 09:52 PM
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Done the boot before . I guess my concern is that I don't want the shock or my brake line to act as a stopper and do you forsee any other disadvantages to letting the shock act as the stopper in this setup. I am running 7100 10 inch in the rear and do have the rear springs retained on the bottom and the top (safari guard retainers with the bicycle spring so they will drop a bit but go back into place).
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As a follow up to my post, I did this a couple weeks ago...not sure if the spring would have gone back or not without the cones
That's why I don't bother with cones in front.
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Old November 28th, 2012, 07:56 AM
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Jeff, was this the side with the bad bushing? I think it was, and that might explain why it extended so far.

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As a follow up to my post, I did this a couple weeks ago...not sure if the spring would have gone back or not without the cones
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Old November 28th, 2012, 08:07 AM
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Jeff, was this the side with the bad bushing? I think it was, and that might explain why it extended so far.
Uh, his bad bushing is in the rear trailing arm? This was the front that dislocated.
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Old November 28th, 2012, 08:20 AM
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Mmh yes. You'd think given my boot was involved in the fix that my head would have been too. Don't mind me - carry on.
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You all can jump in here, but I don't see any issue with letting the shock act as a stopper. The only weight on it, assuming the wheel is off the ground, is that of half the axle at most. So long as your brake lines aren't getting stretched at the bottom of travel...
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Mmh yes. You'd think given my boot was involved in the fix that my head would have been too. Don't mind me - carry on.
Jason is correct...the front right dislocated but the rear left bushing died
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Old November 28th, 2012, 11:32 AM
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I run the same setup (except w/ FOX shocks) and have not had an issue w/ the shock being the stopper it is just loud and sometimes it does not re-seat perfectly. I just carry a BFH and knock it back in. I want to switch my front springs to non-progressive to retain the top but not sure how I am going to do that yet........
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As a follow up to my post, I did this a couple weeks ago...not sure if the spring would have gone back or not without the cones
You may need a wedge to angle the spring to reseat properly..

I know this was discussed in the other thread but here's my rear with the Mongo arms.. I am going to need longer brake hoses and am thinking about straps as well..
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Old November 28th, 2012, 03:55 PM
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Retain the springs on all corners, period.
I prefer to limit the front articulation with straps and get as much rear articulation in the rear as possible - for sweetest offroad use.
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Why bother putting on longer shocks if you are going to limit articulation?
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I ripped the top out of an aftermarket front shock tower on my last trip to Morocco one shock failed too at the front welded the tower up properly but the shock was toast, all the oil fell out (can't remember the shock make but I replaced them like for like so I wasn't too unhappy with the performance).
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Why bother putting on longer shocks if you are going to limit articulation?
I think you need something to limit downward travel besides the shock itself.
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