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Old April 9th, 2008, 05:34 PM
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dixon bate hardware question

I just bought a Dixon Bate 5.0 Ton Tow Jaw from EE. Came without the mounting hardware. Does anyone know what size bolts I need for a 97 D90?? John @ EE said he used 1/2 inch (M12) but did not remember how long they were.
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Old April 9th, 2008, 05:43 PM
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don't forget a backing plate
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Old April 9th, 2008, 07:20 PM
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I have the backing plate, just need the hardware.
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Old April 9th, 2008, 08:53 PM
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Why do you need ME to go out to MY truck and measure what bolts you need. Why can't YOU go out to YOUR truck and measure it yourself. And while your out there look up for me how many quarts of oil I need for my next oil change.

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Why do you need ME to go out to MY truck and measure what bolts you need. Why can't YOU go out to YOUR truck and measure it yourself. And while your out there look up for me how many quarts of oil I need for my next oil change.

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Why do you need ME to go out to MY truck and measure what bolts you need. Why can't YOU go out to YOUR truck and measure it yourself. And while your out there look up for me how many quarts of oil I need for my next oil change.

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I guess it depends on how thick your bumper is, that is if you are mounting it to the bumper. Take the bumper thickness + backing plate+ Dixon bate thickness and leave yourself room for the nut to get all the threads on. If it's behind the bumper, then it can be a little longer and nobody will ever know. I took the DB to the hardware store and got some big ass grade 8 bolts and washers.
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The one I bought from Rovers North came with all the bolts etc. It had a LR part number. Might want to try them next time. Mayeb they can provide the correct bolts.
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Why do you need ME to go out to MY truck and measure what bolts you need. Why can't YOU go out to YOUR truck and measure it yourself. J.
Because they don't have rulers in Utah?
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Because they don't have rulers in Utah?
He could come over and borrow mine.
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Dixon-Bate (3.5t) install location on ARB Bumper.

For those of you who have installed a pair of Dixon-Bate Tow Jaws or mounted a similar recovery points to your ARB bumper, where did you install them exactly? I had two Curt MFG hooks already installed in a bit of an odd spot (see white cross on attached picture) when I got the rig and ARB told me that they didn't approve of that location because it wasn't considered safe (the bumper could fail). Now they got me all worried so I thought I'd ask around to see where people installed their recovery points and if you've had any trouble using them where you put them. The two potential areas I've chosen are marked in the photo (red). They are more or less to the left and right (closer and further out) of the winch. Does it matter where? I just wanted to make sure in case there are some specific rules to follow. Thanks!
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That white 'x' does seem to me to be a very poor location.
I always try to mount them in line with the chassis rail.
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6 inch X 1/2 grade 8 or better.. its best to drop the tank its tight if you are just reach up.,
that way you can clean and paint the back of the cross member while you are at it.... MIGHT AS WELL ...MAW
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It was. I removed them. Seems like you would want it lower and more in line with the chassis rail of the bumper.

I could put them right next to the winch roller fairlead but there is an overhang that might interfere with it. I'd rather put them further out but still horizontal to the chassis rail (the furthest to the left/right in the picture I posted). Close to the ARB logo. This location would be alright, wouldn't it? It would horizontal but not right next to the chassis rail.

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That white 'x' does seem to me to be a very poor location.
I always try to mount them in line with the chassis rail.
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I'm not familiar with the ARB bumpers for Defenders, but just based on the photo I'm guessing I'd go with the outboard location you have marked.
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Inside the rail is probably stronger than outside, but either way get as close to it as reasonable, use a backing plate, and you'll be fine.
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The reason I said outside is because 90% of my loads on a front recovery point are when winching with a snatch block. Inside all the bending forces are trying to pull out the center of the bumper. Outside there is a counter force.
Probably over thought and in reality probably make little difference.
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That's pretty much was I was going to use it for. I think you're right. Its a really beefy bumper so I don't think you can go wrong so as long as it is located horizontally level in comparison to the chassis rail. If it is like those hooks that were (higher up) then potentially some leverage could be created and twist the bumper. I will install it on the on the outward location, pretty much exactly where the recovery point is on the Defender (the D-90 source background picture) to the left of this text.

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The reason I said outside is because 90% of my loads on a front recovery point are when winching with a snatch block. Inside all the bending forces are trying to pull out the center of the bumper. Outside there is a counter force.
Probably over thought and in reality probably make little difference.
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