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Old November 30th, 2008, 08:35 PM
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Disco and the 200tdi swap

I know it is a bit off subject for this forum, but I was wondering if there is anyone in the US doing 200tdi swaps for the Discoveries? Just asking because one can buy a disco for very little money and then do the swap and you might have cash left over for gas!
I know there are plenty of 200tdi engines out there, the only problem I see, and correct me if I am wrong, is that one would have to find a manual tranny disco for the conversion (to keep the cost down) I don't know if the V8 auto tranny would match up with the 200tdi.
I live in florida, so engine emissions is not a concern (there are none).
I mention this because any 110 that I look at starts around 12K to 18K imported. the the engine swap runs (depending if the original 110 is a V8 or 4cyl) 4K and up. And don't forget that it is still a right hand drive! and switching it over takes you another 4K and up. So one needs 20K (closer to 30K) to have the dream 110.
On the other hand an early Disco, with an engine swap should run one much much much less than the 110.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 09:11 PM
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There are 5-speed discos out there.. ECR did a Disco w/ a 300Tdi (http://www.eastcoastrover.com/Discotech.html)
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Old November 30th, 2008, 09:51 PM
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Yes, but I heard that ECR only works on Defenders now... shame, would like to do a Camel version, roll cage and all!
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Old December 1st, 2008, 07:25 AM
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If you have a Disco that is old enough to have had a 200 in it that is. Otherwise it will have to have a 300 in it (which I have in stock w/the Disco trans). Conversions have to use a motor that is of the same year or newer than the car being converted, and if it is '96 or newer, forget about it.

I'll be driving by Miami with a trailer in Jan.
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Old December 1st, 2008, 08:13 AM
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I put a disco 200tdi and converted to lhd, my brothers 110 this weekend.
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Old December 1st, 2008, 03:29 PM
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The V8 and TDI gearboxes (both manual and auto) are completely different and not interchangeable. You need to get a gearbox, regardless.
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Someone needs to do a write up on how to convert a RRC or 1994-95 DI to 300tdi/200tdi.
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The V8 and TDI gearboxes (both manual and auto) are completely different and not interchangeable. You need to get a gearbox, regardless.
It will still be less work / money if you start with a 5 speed and install a 5 speed VS starting with an auto and installing a 5 speed.
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There are 5-speed discos out there.. ECR did a Disco w/ a 300Tdi (http://www.eastcoastrover.com/Discotech.html)

The current owner of the Discotech has made waves about selling it recently, if you are interested, drop me an email.
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Old December 1st, 2008, 06:22 PM
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Old December 1st, 2008, 06:59 PM
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There ya go.
Buy that one and we'll paint it and dress it up like a CT Disco for you.
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Old December 1st, 2008, 07:26 PM
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There ya go.
Buy that one and we'll paint it and dress it up like a CT Disco for you.
There ya go! I'll be in Portland on Wed, I can even drop it off! It's actually an xd but the person I bought it from decided to have it painted green before he took delivery from the 4x4 center. Don't ask, I have no idea why someone would paint an xd green! At least they did a good job, but not so good that it's not a pretty straight forward job to put it back to xd yellow.
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Old December 1st, 2008, 07:49 PM
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Someone needs to do a write up on how to convert a RRC or 1994-95 DI to 300tdi/200tdi.
not fawkin rocket science.

Purchase a same year or newer (than heap to be converted) drivetrain from rad/intercooler to parking brake. Make sure to ask for all hoses etc...everything that is connected to the motor. What is no good will at least be emergency spares or good for ID. 90% of the parts needed that are TDI specific are easily available stateside. Weld in some motor mounts (I have mounts and templates available). Swap in components from donor drivetrain. If you need to swap from an auto to a 5speed you'll need a LHD pedal box,master cylinder which is not terribly difficult to source (I have them in stock). With the exception of the motor mounts it all bolts in. All the holes and braketry is there.

The wiring is not at all difficult. It does require working eyesight to be able to read the wiring diagrams which are widely available. If you really can't cope I build harnesses that will plug into what you have, with factory connections and factory wiring colors....

works the same for Toyota, Nissan, Mercedes, etc. They are all available in diesel somewhere in the world and all you need is the bits that make it so.

not trying to pimp my shite. Just answer questions.

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The V8 and TDI gearboxes (both manual and auto) are completely different and not interchangeable. You need to get a gearbox, regardless.
they CAN be converted either way but generally not worth it unless a pretty fresh donor.

can also adapt diesel to the full on V8 tranny with an M&D adaptor plate

so many options. I'm all for getting the one that was on the Donor motor to start with.
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I am planning on waiting for an already converted one to go up for sale for less than D90 money.
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