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Old July 9th, 2013, 10:42 AM
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Diesel + ATF or 2 Stroke Oil?

I am new to diesels and just wondering what everyone's experience is with diesel additives. I have read about people using 2 stroke oil and some using ATF because of the low sulfer content in the new diesel fuels. Just hoping for some real world experience. Thanks in advance.

This is for my newly acquired HMMWV with 6.2 V8 diesel motor.
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Old July 9th, 2013, 11:25 AM
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I was given experienced based guidance by NLX to add a bottle to ATF something like every couple of tanks, and they have 200 TDI's that run thousands of hard kilometers in the C. Amercan jungles every year in their commercial operation and have no mechanical issues.

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ATF in the tank cleared up and issue for me on my 300D last summer. I made an emergency call from Wall, SD to a buddy and Virginia who recommended it. Engine was knocking and running rough at idle after 1200 miles. ATF cleared it up in a tankfull or two.
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Old July 9th, 2013, 12:23 PM
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I like ATF and/or 2 stroke oil. I use whichever I have on hand.
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Old July 9th, 2013, 01:05 PM
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if it was available in charlotte, I'd love to fill up with an occasional tank of B20. that would be like eating fiber for my engine and keep it happy.
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Thanks guys. Anyone know what the correct diesel:atf ratio is? Do you guys use Dexron III? And is it legal to do? I read somewhere someone got pulled over and the officer did a "tank-dip" and the gas was tainted with ATF dye and he was fined for it. I can't find the article now though.
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I used 1 quart for a tank full on the mercedes. As for what kind, what ever was on sale or cheap.
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Whenever I swap fuel filters (which is either at every oil change or sometimes between oil changes), I fill up the new filter with the old Type-F ATF fluid. Which essentially accomplishes the above.

In every tank, I put 8oz of Optilube XPD (Gustavo turned me on to it) and it smooths things out considerably and also bumped up my fuel economy probably 3-5% (no joke). I buy it by the gallon and leave an 8oz bottle filled up in the truck to dump into my next fillup.
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Thanks guys. Anyone know what the correct diesel:atf ratio is? Do you guys use Dexron III? And is it legal to do? I read somewhere someone got pulled over and the officer did a "tank-dip" and the gas was tainted with ATF dye and he was fined for it. I can't find the article now though.
When I was in the citrus business the DOT guys would test the tanks of our pickup trucks sometimes. They were looking for trucks running offroad diesel on the road in their pickups. There is a dye in offroar diesel. It's a road tax thing. I did know some guys who ran Marvel Mystery Oil in their trucks and got popped with a ticket because the DOT thought they were running off road diesel.
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I use ATF every couple tanks. Just by the seat of my pants it seems to run a little smoother than with 2-stroke oil.

I have read that some people use filtered waste motor oil as well, although with not as effective. I've got some old (but unopened) Mobil 1 sitting around that I'm not comfortable with putting it in the 90 since it's pretty old but need to get rid of. Would it be safe to put some in each tank even though it's synthetic? Sorry to steer this OT a little
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I run a bit of 2 stroke oil in my 200tdi seems to smooth things out and the smoke clears up considerably too.
If 80:1 works to lube my 2 stroke trial bike that revs to 6000+ RPM I thought that 320:1 would be fine in the diesel just to lube the injection pump, 2000 RPM max, so I put around 1/5 litre in every fill-up of around 60 litres.
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Stanadyne additive if available, 2-stroke oil if not.

2-stroke oil is formulated to burn, ATF is not...
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Yes, a proper diesel fuel conditioner is a lot better idea. ATF has additives that do not burn and they can buildup in the injector nozzles.
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Yes, a proper diesel fuel conditioner is a lot better idea. ATF has additives that do not burn and they can buildup in the injector nozzles.
Red, what have you had good luck with?
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Red, what have you had good luck with?
Dude I'm telling you Opti-lube XPD.
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Found an independent study about diesel additives:

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Found an independent study about diesel additives:

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OK That forum wins the worst-spelling award.
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OK That forum wins the worst-spelling award.

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Ive always added a little ATF to diesel filters
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