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Old December 5th, 2017, 01:46 PM
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Defender V8 Carb Conversion - Labor Cost

Does anyone know a rough cost to swap the twin SU carbs for a single Holly or Edelbrock one. A local shop estimated $500-800 in labor, but now my tab is around $1300 in labor. Does this seem high or about average.

Here's a list of what they've done.

- removed intake manifold and old carbs
- installed edelbrock manifold and holly carb
- installed fuel pressure regulator
- installed fuel filter
- installed new throttle cable

Any advice or assistance is greatly appreciated.
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Old December 5th, 2017, 04:21 PM
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I recently did almost all this, think it took me between 3 and 4 hours, including making some brackets for the choke cable
Of course breaking bolts at other things can make this higher.
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Old December 5th, 2017, 04:28 PM
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Thats ridiculous... Like Johan said this could not be more basic...Shade tree mechanic could do this in a saturday morning.. Shocked they would charge you more than a few hundred bucks. $1,300 is robbery
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Old December 5th, 2017, 05:11 PM
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Well the good news you've learned something and I bet they did too. I recall some sharing that it is tricky to get everything plumbed in properly. At that price it would have been nice to go EFI.
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Old December 6th, 2017, 06:16 PM
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Carb Conversion $1500 - Labor

The mechanic called today and said they were still working on the truck but requested that they get paid today.

Total labor: $1500

He said it took them 18 hours to swap the intake manifold, carbs, hook up the lines, and add a throttle cable extension.

It should be an interesting talk tomorrow.
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What a bunch of hooey. I would demand a specific and detailed breakdown of labor. Please report back on the details of their incompetence.
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I had to R&R the intake manifold to replace a bad lifter and it took about 3 hours. Not sure why it would take them that long. I would make sure they can provide specifics.
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Can't speak to the Holly carb and what differences may arise there but the stock accel cable if routed correctly works just fine with the Edlebrock/Webber carb. No fuel pressure regulator is required if removing Su's and going to 4bbl. The manifold bolts and thermostat housing can usually be re-used.
Not a multi day job.
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Just to be clear, this is just the labor, not the parts/total cost correct?
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Yes, this is just a labor charge.

With parts I'm in this conversion about $2,400
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Dude...I feel your pain. This is outrageous.
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I've rebuilt a v8 in less time...
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What I find interesting about this situation is that every forum that I am on or moderate has a reacurring thread on “what is a reputable shop near me”. This one should clearly not appear as a recommendation.
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Yes, this is just a labor charge.

With parts I'm in this conversion about $2,400

Ouch. My entire conversion to FiTech EFI on my 3.9 V8 was a lot less than that, and Im a novice mechanic, at best.
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I did it on two trucks.

The first truck I messed up the v galley gasket and it spewed coolant everywhere and I pinched the gasket so I had to take it apart. Then I plumbed something wrong and was getting way to much pressure in the crank case and I had to redo the bubbled up v galley seal again. Finally got it to work venting the valve cover to atmosphere.

I drove it to work the next day so I removed and replaced the manifold 3 times in maybe 12 hours. Luckily I had no issues with the carb and the linkage.

First time go on the second truck in an afternoon with beer involved.

A shop likely should not need 18 hours to do this. Unless you are paying them to learn how to do a manifold swap which is bs.
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Oh boy, I received these messages from the auto shop this morning. Now you can see what I'm working with. Stay tuned.


"(1/7) HEY CHARLIE EARLY HEADS UP I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MEET WITH YOU TODAY AND POSSIBLY TOMORROW, DANO THE TECH WHO WORKED ON YOUR CAR HAD TO PUT WIFE INTO

(2/7) HOSIPITAL LAST NIGHT AND ADMITTED HER. HE WILL NOT BE HERE TODAY FOR SURE. HE ALSO NEEDS TO DO FINAL COLD ADJUSTMENTS WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY AND HE

(3/7) WILL BE WALKING YOU THROUGH WHAT HE DID AND WHY SO MUCH TIME BILLED WITH YOU IN PERSON. ALSO WANT TO INFORM YOU THAT DUE TO OUR CONVERSATION YESTERDAY

(4/7) AND THE WAY CREDIT CARDS/CHECKS WORK IN STATE OF SOUTHCAROLINA.WE WILL ONLY EXCEPT CASH FOR PAYMENT TO RELEASE YOUR CAR. I AM SORRY FOR ANY INCONVIENCES

(5/7) THIS CAUSES YOU.YOU AGREED IN WRITING TO CHARGES AND HOPEFULLY AFTER YOU SEE THE WORK WE DID TO DO IT RIGHT YOU WILL AGREE YOU GOT YOUR MONIES WORTH.

(6/7) WILL CALL YOU IF DANO MAKES IT HERE IN MORNING IF NOT MONDAY OR AS SOON AS DANS BACK TO WORK. THANKS AGAIN BOB. OUR SYSTEM IS SET IN CAP LOCKS IM NOT

(7/7) SCREAMING/MAD OR ANYTHING NEGITIVE. OWER HAS TO PROTECT HIS INTEREST AS FAR AS PAYMENT GOES."
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That shop is a bunch of fucking thieves! Without a doubt you have got to name and shame them here. That is truly an act of thievery. And then to tell you that after they completed the work that they only will take cash to give your truck back.

Let me tell you something,...If this was me, I would be at their door this morning with some friends and an extra set of keys to my truck and be taking it back. If need be, I'd be making a visit to my local police department as well.

Sorry you are dealing with this but they are taking advantage of you (or the situation) BIG TIME and you should do something about it.

Good luck and keep us posted! Especially who that fucked up shop is.
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That shop is a bunch of fucking thieves! Without a doubt you have got to name and shame them here. That is truly an act of thievery. And then to tell you that after they completed the work that they only will take cash to give your truck back.

Let me tell you something,...If this was me, I would be at their door this morning with some friends and an extra set of keys to my truck and be taking it back. If need be, I'd be making a visit to my local police department as well.

Sorry you are dealing with this but they are taking advantage of you (or the situation) BIG TIME and you should do something about it.

Good luck and keep us posted! Especially who that fucked up shop is.

Yeah, I called my attorney first thing this morning.
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Time to cut your losses with a shop you no longer trust. Id take them up on the walk-thru. Id get the whole thing on video. Id also get in touch with the owner. Let him know that youd like to see if he feels its fair that his shop took on a job that it had insufficient experience with.
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