Defender Importing Company Reviews - Page 5 - Defender Source
Defender Source  

Go Back   Defender Source > Defender & Series Technical Discussions > Defender Technical Discussions

Join the Defender Source Community Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #81  
Old April 3rd, 2016, 12:41 AM
AZDefender110
Status: Offline
Brandon Gough
1989 Defender 110
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Arizona
Posts: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by JQ11 View Post
Keep us posted - I personally wouldn't start recommending them until you get your final product but glad the ordering went smooth. Best of luck - will be great to have a solid restorer as it's pretty much just ECR that you can trust!
Yeah I hear ya. That's why I said talk to Carel and not specifically order one from him unless you feel comfortable. I'll post when I get back from the actual workshop in Amsterdam let you know. So far I'm happy and Carel seems genuine.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #82  
Old April 3rd, 2016, 12:43 AM
javelinadave's Avatar
javelinadave
Status: Offline
Dave
1989 110SW 1 of 2,000,000
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Posts: 5,429
Brandon,
I sent you a PM.
__________________
:O [==] O:
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #83  
Old April 3rd, 2016, 12:47 AM
AZDefender110
Status: Offline
Brandon Gough
1989 Defender 110
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Arizona
Posts: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by javelinadave View Post
Brandon,
I sent you a PM.
Dave I got it. I thought I responded but my iPad is acting funny. Would love to see your truck in person too. We live relatively close from what Rosalie told me. Glad we could connect.
Reply With Quote
  #84  
Old April 3rd, 2016, 02:05 AM
cowboy
Status: Offline
steven
'84 2-carb'd V8 4-speed 110 LHD SW
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: USA
Posts: 320
Quote:
Originally Posted by AZDefender110 View Post
I ordered a defender 110 with several custom features and a LS3 upgrade.
Hmmm, how are you going to get a 110 with a LS3 swap imported into the U.S.?
Reply With Quote
  #85  
Old April 3rd, 2016, 08:39 AM
jason1st
Status: Offline
Jason Crandall
2006 LR3 2012 SC 1983 110
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Atlanta, GA.
Posts: 319
Quote:
Originally Posted by cowboy View Post
Hmmm, how are you going to get a 110 with a LS3 swap imported into the U.S.?
+1

Also, I was all warm and fuzzy about my Euro purchase when I started out too. It ended up a complete goat f@#$. Good luck
Reply With Quote
  #86  
Old April 3rd, 2016, 09:02 AM
AZDefender110
Status: Offline
Brandon Gough
1989 Defender 110
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Arizona
Posts: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by cowboy View Post
Hmmm, how are you going to get a 110 with a LS3 swap imported into the U.S.?
There are two legal ways to import the defender. It either has to have the original engine or an EPA compliant one. This is clearly stated on NHTSA, EPA, and DOT websites under the import rules. This one of the main reasons I chose this upgrade as opposed to a 300 tdi. 300 tdi didn't come out until 94. I didn't want to take any chances. There are several defenders running around here in the US with the 300 tdi however and no Feds knocking on their doors.

------ Follow up post added April 3rd, 2016 08:03 AM ------

Quote:
Originally Posted by jason1st View Post
+1

Also, I was all warm and fuzzy about my Euro purchase when I started out too. It ended up a complete goat f@#$. Good luck
Who did you order from?
Reply With Quote
  #87  
Old April 3rd, 2016, 09:07 AM
nathanwind's Avatar
nathanwind
Status: Offline
Jason Lavender
88-90-127-LR3
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Alexandria VA/Bolton NY
Posts: 8,501
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by AZDefender110 View Post
There are two legal ways to import the defender. It either has to have the original engine or an EPA compliant one. This is clearly stated on NHTSA, EPA, and DOT websites under the import rules.
Negatory. I'm sure you'll receive a plethora of responses to this, but vehicle must have its original or original type motor for import. Period. Nothing else.
__________________
Jason Lavender
'71 Series IIA
'88 127 #F96 DKN
'94 90 NAS #324
'06 LR3 HSE

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

(10% discount for DSource members, use coupon code "D90")

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #88  
Old April 3rd, 2016, 09:23 AM
AZDefender110
Status: Offline
Brandon Gough
1989 Defender 110
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Arizona
Posts: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by nathanwind View Post
Negatory. I'm sure you'll receive a plethora of responses to this, but vehicle must have its original or original type motor for import. Period. Nothing else.
this I straight from the manual,Procedure for importing vehicles and engines into the US, on the EPAs website that directs you there from the NHTSA website

"Vehicles at least 21 years old with replacement engines are not eligible for this exemption
unless they contain equivalent or newer EPA certified engines and emission control systems."

this made feel better to buy the LS3 upgrade as opposed to the 300 tdi upgrade.
Reply With Quote
  #89  
Old April 3rd, 2016, 09:49 AM
BlackField's Avatar
BlackField
Status: Offline
Oscar
D110
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,399
Quote:
Originally Posted by AZDefender110 View Post
There are two legal ways to import the defender. It either has to have the original engine or an EPA compliant one. This is clearly stated on NHTSA, EPA, and DOT websites under the import rules. This one of the main reasons I chose this upgrade as opposed to a 300 tdi. 300 tdi didn't come out until 94. I didn't want to take any chances. There are several defenders running around here in the US with the 300 tdi however and no Feds knocking on their doors.

------ Follow up post added April 3rd, 2016 08:03 AM ------



Who did you order from?
Have you heard of anyone successfully importing a defender with an engine other than what was originally fitted?

I haven't read anything about that here on defender source. Would be interesting if true. You may be the first, good luck.
__________________
Lemmings as you know them are a Disney fabricated lie. The truth is out there.
Reply With Quote
  #90  
Old April 3rd, 2016, 10:03 AM
nathanwind's Avatar
nathanwind
Status: Offline
Jason Lavender
88-90-127-LR3
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Alexandria VA/Bolton NY
Posts: 8,501
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by AZDefender110 View Post
this I straight from the manual,Procedure for importing vehicles and engines into the US, on the EPAs website that directs you there from the NHTSA website

"Vehicles at least 21 years old with replacement engines are not eligible for this exemption
unless they contain equivalent or newer EPA certified engines and emission control systems."

this made feel better to buy the LS3 upgrade as opposed to the 300 tdi upgrade.
I assure you I am not making this up...please contact Willh on here, Uncle Douglas, or similar if you would rather do some additional research and procure their services. Vehicle must be in original, unmodified configuration for import. Change the LS after it gets here if you want, otherwise run the very likely risk of it sitting in port for months - if not years - and then needing to be shipped back from whence it came.
__________________
Jason Lavender
'71 Series IIA
'88 127 #F96 DKN
'94 90 NAS #324
'06 LR3 HSE

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

(10% discount for DSource members, use coupon code "D90")

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #91  
Old April 3rd, 2016, 10:17 AM
1of40's Avatar
1of40
Status: Offline
1of40
NAS 97SW & 83 One Ten Tdi
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Potomac Falls & Wintergreen, Virginia
Posts: 4,955
Registry
Jayzus! CBP will have a heyday when they see a well sorted LS under that bonnet. They're probably bored to death with the Tdci's, tdi's and TD5's.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #92  
Old April 3rd, 2016, 10:20 AM
phoenix37's Avatar
phoenix37
Status: Offline
john
97 D90 ST / 1957 S1 109/ 1983 LS110
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Venice, CA/Yarmouth,ME
Posts: 4,778
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackField View Post
Have you heard of anyone successfully importing a defender with an engine other than what was originally fitted?

I haven't read anything about that here on defender source. Would be interesting if true. You may be the first, good luck.
exactly what Oscar said.. You are playing russian roulette. If you"dont want to take any chances" import with stock drive train and do LS swap when it arrives.
Reply With Quote
  #93  
Old April 3rd, 2016, 10:34 AM
Daddymow's Avatar
Daddymow
Status: Offline
Raub A.
1987 D110 Tithonus
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Stuart, FL / Boone, NC
Posts: 3,342
Registry
Hey, you never know Brandon may know something nobody else knows. Heck, no one had ever jumped the Snake River Canyon before Evil Knievel.

Keep us updated on when the truck hits the port and when it clears customs.
__________________
You can't polish a turd but you can roll it in glitter - eBay.uk ad for Freelander.
Reply With Quote
  #94  
Old April 3rd, 2016, 10:57 AM
mongosd2's Avatar
mongosd2
Status: Offline
Frank Rafka
01 D2 96 D1 83 110
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Tucson
Posts: 813
This shit just keeps getting better...from another thread about legality...

From the EPA guy:
If the vehicle is at least 21 years old (the age of the vehicle is determined by subtracting the calendar year of manufacture from the calendar year of importation). If the calendar year of manufacture is unavailable, the importer may substitute the model year or year of first registration. For instance, to qualify in 2001, the vehicle must have been manufactured in 1980 or earlier. The vehicle must be in its original unmodified configuration. Vehicles at least 21 years old with replacement engines are not eligible for this exemption unless they contain equivalent or newer EPA certified engines. This means that the engine needs to be a direct replacement (original replacement engine from the OEM) or an after market engine that was built to be identical to the original engine.

If a vehicle is imported under this rule and you change the engine to a different engine than what it was originally manufactured with then it would no longer be exempt under the age exemption and you would be manufacturing a new configuration (new motor vehicle) and would require the vehicle be certified to current EPA Federal emission standards. Once the vehicle is in the U.S. and governed by U.S. regulations then it would fall under engine tampering


Yeah, what the "f" do we know...what's really sad is that people are not taking advantage of the incredible resource available to them by using the search function and actually reading all the info posted.
Shows how sleazy some of these companies are. They should know that this will cause problems once they look under the hood.

Please post up thier response about the legality of this restoration project and what magic spell they'll use to have it legally imported.
Reply With Quote
  #95  
Old April 3rd, 2016, 11:13 AM
Rocky's Avatar
Rocky
Status: Offline
Chris
72 + D1 drivetrain
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Colonies
Posts: 7,763
If I'd read your initial post more carefully I would have told you everything you are now hearing. If you chose to proceed this will happen: http://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/video-ga...rover-defender

And I bet they are going to out a new chassis under it to. Another unsafe condition in CBP eyes that will send your truck to the crusher.
Reply With Quote
  #96  
Old April 3rd, 2016, 11:20 AM
CJ's FJ's Avatar
CJ's FJ
Status: Offline
CJ
1985 90
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: W. MI
Posts: 62
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by mongosd2 View Post
Shows how sleazy some of these companies are. They should know that this will cause problems once they look under the hood.
Agreed, now if any of these companies would commit in writing to refund a buyer's money/rectify the situation at no cost if it went wrong, I would at least feel a "little better" about attempting something like this. Particularly with $100K on the line.

Doubtful they would, and potentially meaningless if they did though.
Reply With Quote
  #97  
Old April 3rd, 2016, 11:27 AM
BlackField's Avatar
BlackField
Status: Offline
Oscar
D110
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,399
Can we split this off to a separate thread? The original thread and this issue are good reads but together it might get muddy.
__________________
Lemmings as you know them are a Disney fabricated lie. The truth is out there.
Reply With Quote
  #98  
Old April 3rd, 2016, 11:28 AM
javelinadave's Avatar
javelinadave
Status: Offline
Dave
1989 110SW 1 of 2,000,000
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Posts: 5,429
Anybody stop to think that Brandon might be dealing with a company that might do the engine swap stateside? Just saying......... Definitely worth asking during his visit.
__________________
:O [==] O:
Reply With Quote
  #99  
Old April 3rd, 2016, 11:32 AM
mongosd2's Avatar
mongosd2
Status: Offline
Frank Rafka
01 D2 96 D1 83 110
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Tucson
Posts: 813
If they are legit, then that would make sense but if you read his posts he leaves you with the impression that it's coming across the pond with the engine installed...
Reply With Quote
  #100  
Old April 3rd, 2016, 12:17 PM
phoenix37's Avatar
phoenix37
Status: Offline
john
97 D90 ST / 1957 S1 109/ 1983 LS110
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Venice, CA/Yarmouth,ME
Posts: 4,778
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by javelinadave View Post
Anybody stop to think that Brandon might be dealing with a company that might do the engine swap stateside? Just saying......... Definitely worth asking during his visit.

Not according to this statement. He mentions the legality of importing not about whether its legal once its here.

"There are two legal ways to import the defender. It either has to have the original engine or an EPA compliant one. This is clearly stated on NHTSA, EPA, and DOT websites under the import rules. This one of the main reasons I chose this upgrade as opposed to a 300 tdi"
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Defender Source > Defender & Series Technical Discussions > Defender Technical Discussions

Tags
defender, import

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Multimeter Reviews 97-D90-736 Misc. Chit-Chat 15 June 19th, 2012 11:34 PM
Ice Chest / Cooler Reviews? MattGuyver_007 Misc. Chit-Chat 14 May 3rd, 2012 05:29 PM
Living Overland's Recipes, Reviews, & Techniques Foodie Cooking Corner 27 April 12th, 2012 11:46 AM
Shop/Dealer/Vendor reviews rover4x4 Support & Suggestions 1 June 24th, 2008 10:43 PM
2003-2004 Range Rover Reviews/Thoughts? OCD90 Misc. Chit-Chat 5 November 8th, 2006 10:26 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:33 AM.


Copyright