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Old September 7th, 2012, 01:02 PM
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Defender duplicate key cutting?

Hi All, i have a '95 D90 ST. Need to get a spare ignition cut and no one has been able to cut one successfully for me. Doesn't anyone know where to get one done? do I need to buy a special blank or something? I live in NY metro area. thanks in advance....
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Old September 7th, 2012, 01:11 PM
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I have had a key or two cut at Lowes... And they worked.

But, the LR Defender keys are no longer available... And when when you do find them they are about $50.

The 90/110 keys were hand cut with a tool that looks like a pair of pliers with a set of dials on them.

My kids love keys, especially the 90 keys and lost them before a local event, I called everyone, from the dealers to my buddy who is a LR market manager. They could not find a key for me, and they had to find someone who had the tool to cut it.

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Old September 7th, 2012, 01:31 PM
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A key blank company "ILCO" makes the blanks (and there are many others). This key blank (grooving) has been used by many English car companys for several decades. As a 20+ year locksmith myself, the blanks are available at any reputable locksmith. The Ilco blank number is X157.

Download the keyblank manual http://www.kaba-ilco.com/key-systems...eferences.html

Then search under Rover as you will see the grooving on the X157 is repeated on several listings. The thing that changes is the keyhead, keyhead shape/material, or the key blank blade length beyond the shoulder stop. Generally, the lock is so sloppy that several of these keys will fit.
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Old September 7th, 2012, 01:50 PM
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You can also buy blanks on ebay.co.uk pretty easy
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Old September 7th, 2012, 02:20 PM
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thanks everyone. a pleasure to hear from you all.
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Old September 7th, 2012, 02:27 PM
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I bought a couple of the below keys on eBay and had them cut yesterday at my local locksmith. They work perfectly (ignition) and took about a week to receive from the U.K.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Land-Rover-B...#ht_4799wt_924
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Old September 7th, 2012, 03:29 PM
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I got a spare set made at LR for $30

cheaper than the blank themselves from Rovers North
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Old September 7th, 2012, 03:44 PM
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Ditto on the X157 or LF17 key. They can be found online in the US for about $5 each: http://mysecuritypro.com/ivecolf17keyblanks.aspx

Take them to a locksmith or an Ace Hardware. Ace did mine for free.
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Old September 7th, 2012, 05:01 PM
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What about the door lock keys? The locksmith that did a couple of extra ignition keys for me couldn't do the doors. Is that a common blank or does that one have to come from the UK?
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Probably the X86 blank, as used on my '97 D90.
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Old September 7th, 2012, 05:55 PM
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Probably the X86 blank, as used on my '97 D90.
My ST Door key worked in my SW, and about 4 other 90's...
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I have a spare set thats marked as Maserati that I received when I bought the 90.

Can the door locks be reworked or replaced to have the ignition key unlock them? Never liked having to carry two set of keys.
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Old September 7th, 2012, 07:31 PM
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"Can the door locks be reworked or replaced to have the ignition key unlock them? Never liked having to carry two set of keys."

In 2007 and forward, Defenders come with a common key, ignition and front doors. Nothing before will work with the existing handles, pull or anti-burst. Pre 2007 doors, that have pull handles, can be changed out (the entire handle assembly) to accept the ignition key (re-keying of door cylinders required to match ign.).

The problem mainly arises from the fact that the ignition key is about 1/4" longer than the door key & subsequent door lock cylinder depth. Yes, the ignition key will go in the older Defenders, but not properly, and eventually you will twist or break off the key in the door.
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Really? My 1991 mod truck has the same key for everything.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/set-2-Uncu...item3f1b23855c

Here's two for cheap?
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Strongly considering ordering this for my '94...
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Really? My 1991 mod truck has the same key for everything.
The military always seems to get the best. I don't know if "MOD" sets are readily available to public, would be great though.
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It says "1995-1998 Defender", any difference in the '95 vs '94 ignition?
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These are the two keys for mine. The short one is the door key and the one I could not find. The other is the ignition. I thought I had read a long time ago that an older VW key might work
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These are the two keys for mine. The short one is the door key and the one I could not find. The other is the ignition. I thought I had read a long time ago that an older VW key might work
Yep, X86 on the left (doors), X157 on the right (ignition)
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