Defender class 3 hitch on the cheap? - Page 2 - Defender Source
Defender Source  

Go Back   Defender Source > Defender & Series Technical Discussions > Defender Technical Discussions

Join the Defender Source Community Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #21  
Old January 1st, 2015, 03:02 PM
sonoronos's Avatar
sonoronos
Status: Offline
Ed
None
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 4,704
Quote:
Originally Posted by DefenderMd View Post
That said... Are the civillian crossmembers drilled the same way? They have a different trailer hitch pattern... But i have t seen them naked... I know mine has extra holes...
Sorry about that. One question - why are you running that extra plate between the crossmember and the hitch? The hitch itself is 1/2" thick. Is it just as a spacer for the bolts?

Not sure about NAS truck, but the PO of my truck had the EXMOD bolt pattern installed on the heavy duty rear cross, so it worked for me.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #22  
Old January 5th, 2015, 12:21 PM
DefenderMd's Avatar
DefenderMd
Status: Offline
Ben
87 defender 110 3 door
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Annapolis md
Posts: 336
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonoronos View Post
Sorry about that. One question - why are you running that extra plate between the crossmember and the hitch? The hitch itself is 1/2" thick. Is it just as a spacer for the bolts?

Not sure about NAS truck, but the PO of my truck had the EXMOD bolt pattern installed on the heavy duty rear cross, so it worked for me.
Yes... I was being cheap... the bolts that held on the pintle were shoulder bolts and like.. 6 inches long.
they went all the way through the pintle.

Pic doesn't really show since it fits so well. I have a piece of 3/8 or 1/2 inch plate that the pintle bolted through.

I didn't wire it yet, so I don't have much incentive to worry about it. Just pull trailers around the farm. I'll get the right bolts next summer when I'm doing more work to it. I have a hand full of parts I'm waiting for warm, not muddy weather to work on. When I bought it it was summer, but the paperwork took forever to accomplish. I didn't want to put the cart before the horse man-hours wise.

But as you can see even with my giant ass bolts there's plenty of room without moving the tank.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1263.jpg
Views:	112
Size:	78.7 KB
ID:	110221  
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #23  
Old January 5th, 2015, 12:26 PM
javelinadave's Avatar
javelinadave
Status: Online
Dave
1989 110SW 1 of 2,000,000
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Posts: 5,429
Quote:
Originally Posted by DefenderMd View Post
Yes... I was being cheap... the bolts that held on the pintle were shoulder bolts and like.. 6 inches long.
they went all the way through the pintle.

Pic doesn't really show since it fits so well. I have a piece of 3/8 or 1/2 inch plate that the pintle bolted through.

I didn't wire it yet, so I don't have much incentive to worry about it. Just pull trailers around the farm. I'll get the right bolts next seasonummer when I'm doing more work to it. I have a hand full of parts I'm waiting for warm, not muddy weather to work on. When I bought it it was summer, but the paperwork took forever to accomplish. I didn't want to put the cart before the horse man-hours wise.

But as you can see even with my giant ass bolts there's plenty of room without moving the tank.
Those long bolts next to the fuel tank scream Ford Pinto and Crown Vic PD cruiser to me.
__________________
:O [==] O:
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old January 5th, 2015, 12:27 PM
sonoronos's Avatar
sonoronos
Status: Offline
Ed
None
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 4,704
Makes perfect sense, thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old January 5th, 2015, 12:28 PM
DefenderMd's Avatar
DefenderMd
Status: Offline
Ben
87 defender 110 3 door
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Annapolis md
Posts: 336
Registry
and I don't know if MOD is different but my rear cross member is... according to the calipers.. about 9 gauge.
Its double ply and it came out to .33 inches with my micrometer. Figure even after brushing, there's paint and rust... so.. 9 or 10 gauge. doubled over most of it.

------ Follow up post added January 5th, 2015 12:30 PM ------

Quote:
Originally Posted by javelinadave View Post
Those long bolts next to the fuel tank scream Ford Pinto and Crown Vic PD cruiser to me.
Good thing its a diesel! and... there's a good amount of sheet metal between those bolts and a ruptured tank.

Yea.. they need the right bolts. I guess even a land rover... or maybe especially, ya don't need to push your already horrible chances.

And we could get into a long thing about the crown vic... pretty standard design or it was anyway.... just parked along the highway with heroes in it a lot.
I've had a few of trunk tanks, and I've only owned 1 ford.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old March 24th, 2015, 04:48 AM
Rdh74
Status: Offline
Ricky Harris
None
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Marion Arkansas
Posts: 8
Thanks for the great find on the hitches!! I installed mine yesterday and it worked like a charm, I used the same bolts that held on the pintle hitch along with some washers.

For $73 dollars you can't go wrong.

Thanks again!!
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old March 24th, 2015, 10:09 PM
DefenderMd's Avatar
DefenderMd
Status: Offline
Ben
87 defender 110 3 door
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Annapolis md
Posts: 336
Registry
Yea i was a bit baffled by the price of the landy ones. Forced the issue. Paid less for a full on frame hitch delivered. Ive since used it with no problems. Even stupidly pulled up a stump with it, using a d ring adapter. Its at least as solid as that little "clip on" that wranglers use
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old May 7th, 2015, 09:07 AM
hillstrubl's Avatar
hillstrubl
Status: Offline
Danny
2005 Disco 3
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Philly, USA
Posts: 1,595
Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Douglas View Post
fwiw any hitch that doesn't have ties forward to two holes through the frame @ the low point in the rear should be considered extremely light duty. Rear cross members are made from dinky 14 gauge steel and are easy as hell to twist or pull in a V if you do not have the forward braces like the NAS bumpers or the dixon bate setup use. Guess how I came by this knowledge..... see signature line
To DefenderMd,
Do you have any interest in the hitch support brace off of a 90?, with a little fab work it should do exactly what Doug is mentioning here. Its yours for the cost of shipping if so.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	hitch1.jpg
Views:	47
Size:	39.7 KB
ID:	120158   Click image for larger version

Name:	hitch2.jpg
Views:	54
Size:	52.0 KB
ID:	120159  

__________________
~2005 Disco 3 "Moneypenny"
~2008 GTI TSI
~If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, thank a Veteran.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old May 7th, 2015, 09:35 AM
DefenderMd's Avatar
DefenderMd
Status: Offline
Ben
87 defender 110 3 door
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Annapolis md
Posts: 336
Registry
Thanks, for real towing I have a tow vehicle that will maintain highway speeds reasonably. I just wanted something for around the farm, or down to the tractor store. I can fab a brace easily if I need one, probably for about the cost of shipping.

3 things..
1: Something to note for anyone (if I can I'll edit my first post) Class 3 should probably not be used in describing this, in its true terms. 2 inch receiver would be better.. I pull an "suv" size trailer max gross weight 3500 lbs, at 2.5 NAD speeds and stopping power. I cannot vouch for heavy loads or rusty crossmembers. Though heavier things generally have brakes. I would not use it for extrication of vehicle from ditches. I would not use it without a good wide backing plate with rounded edges.

2: not all of us are hindered by the 14 ga rear member... mine is the 1 ton/heavy duty, appears to be 9ga (based on measuring the steel, albeit english "steel") buttresed with 1/4" backing plate. I wonder if NAS rovers are particularly weak to account for american collision requirements. or if its just the Civvy rovers in general.

3: I consider all things land rover to be "extreme light duty". Compared to light trucks anyway". I've hauled a ton (1000kg) in the bed my truck with no dificulty at all, but those crossmembers... I don't trust them.

Like I said earlier, the thing is affixed in similar fashion to a similar body part as on the jeep wranglers. They have a a 3500lb limit max (4 door rubicon 4:10s) Seems reasonable limit which to stick. I don't know what rover advertises. I do know they pull a crap ton more in the army with a similarly mounted pintle.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old October 14th, 2016, 10:46 AM
JSBriggs
Status: Offline
.
.
Site Team
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: .
Posts: 12,286
Another Option.

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ber-73820.html

M998 HUMVEE HMMWV 2" RECEIVER HITCH

Click image for larger version

Name:	1.jpg
Views:	15
Size:	23.5 KB
ID:	159752

Click image for larger version

Name:	2.jpg
Views:	15
Size:	23.7 KB
ID:	159753Click image for larger version

Name:	3.jpg
Views:	17
Size:	23.1 KB
ID:	159754

-Jeff
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Defender Source > Defender & Series Technical Discussions > Defender Technical Discussions

Tags
defender, hitch

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cheap lr3/rrs hitch in colorado springs on CL $250 Broncoduecer The Flea Market 0 February 16th, 2014 09:58 AM
class 3 receiver thewap Defender Technical Discussions 21 March 2nd, 2011 04:22 PM
Jeep wins Extreme 4X4 class over Defender popeohana Misc. Chit-Chat 4 January 28th, 2010 07:34 PM
HD Safari Front Skid Plates w class III Hitch FS SafariHP The Vendors Loft 7 November 16th, 2009 12:02 AM
LED replacements: class 101 input discussion pls paulb Misc. Chit-Chat 7 March 18th, 2005 05:15 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:02 AM.


Copyright