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Old January 30th, 2016, 05:58 PM
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Defender and 110 - same thing?

I read that the first Defender came off the production line in 1990. I'm looking at a 110 hi cap pick up tomorrow. Is it technically a Defender, as all the decals and log book show? The UK MOT website facility shows it as: 'Vehicle model 110 4C HCP DT DIESEL'.

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Only a few minor things are different from a 110 to a Defender. It's just that they started calling it "Defender" that year. Mostly, it is the badging.
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Old January 30th, 2016, 07:23 PM
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Well there were a fair few changes. The name came out with the 1991 model year. The changes were not that important other than the engine and gearbox.
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Defender name is a stupid marketing ploy that the Japanese came up, catchy names sold better then cars with numbers. BMW 318,320,323 Merc 180,200,220 Peugeot 404,405,504,604 FIAT 123 Renault 4,5,6,8 JAG 120,140,150. or some brits with letters like MB A,B,C OR JAG D,E .... Land Rover is easily sum'd up as 80,86,88,90,100,107,109,110,127,130... oh and 92.7 but no one had to have a silly name DEFENDER which is like JEEP just a name but not very specific... 110 Hi Cap is very specific vs Defender which could be a range of configurations size and models.... Ok did I rant enough ?
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Defender name is a stupid marketing ploy that the Japanese came up, catchy names sold better then cars with numbers. BMW 318,320,323 Merc 180,200,220 Peugeot 404,405,504,604 FIAT 123 Renault 4,5,6,8 JAG 120,140,150. or some brits with letters like MB A,B,C OR JAG D,E .... Land Rover is easily sum'd up as 80,86,88,90,100,107,109,110,127,130... oh and 92.7 but no one had to have a silly name DEFENDER which is like JEEP just a name but not very specific... 110 Hi Cap is very specific vs Defender which could be a range of configurations size and models.... Ok did I rant enough ?
For 30 some years, BMW had model type conventions right with first digit being the body type (1, 3, 5, 6, 7 etc.) followed by two digit engine displacement in liters followed by a qualifying suffix (nothing or i, is, etc). Then marketing came along to screw this up to appease the ignorant US buyers in 99' with the 323 (which continued to use the 2.5l motor). They wanted Joe public to think the higher displacement 328 was .5l larger displacement instead of the actual .3l to justify the price premium. They also deviated with the base 325 87-88 using the low compression 2.7l stoker motor and smog head. Thankfully, the naming convention for the European mfrs still hold true for the most part.
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They added the Defender name when the Discovery was introduced to reduce confusion between the brand and model names. Before the Discovery there was only one Land Rover.
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They added the Defender name when the Discovery was introduced to reduce confusion between the brand and model names. Before the Discovery there was only one Land Rover.
Range Rover?
Series I to III?
FC101?
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Range Rover? Series I to III? FC101?
The Range Rover at the time was one model and the Land Rover another model of the Rover car company. The 101 is a military specialty vehicle. When the Discovery came out they were forming Land Rover as a brand and not a model.
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Series 1 to 3 is generations of the same vehicle. The 90/110/130 was really the Series 4 Land Rover.
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hmmmm Audi did this I guess too when then added zero's lol I did forget the 101... and yes BMW 535 only being a 3.0 twin turbo... all BS. Anyway I am tell people all the time I don't drive a Defender but a 110, just to argue with them. When I drove my 107 people wanted to call it defender, I would sometimes tell them no it's a Jeep.
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