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Old May 2nd, 2016, 05:08 AM
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The rear axle doesn't operate and when I put the handbrake on it locks the rear axle and the front axle starts to move so the vehicle operates only on the front axle. All the gears are ok. Any suggestions as to what is wrong?
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Old May 2nd, 2016, 06:28 AM
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Something is broken in the rear axle.
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Old May 3rd, 2016, 06:41 AM
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thanks was the wrong description , the rear prop shaft does not engaged any suggestions ?
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What is read above is the rear prop shaft spins. When you apply the hand brake it drive forward.
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right .hand brake on drives only with the front prop shaft
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Something is broken in the rear axle.

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right .hand brake on drives only with the front prop shaft
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Likely the cast iron drive flange. Jack ea wheel up individually with the truck off but in gear. You will likely be able to spin one or the other.
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Pull the halfshafts first. 5 bolts each side. A few minutes of time. As Doug says, look at the drive flanges as the splines can wear out.
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4 wheels of the ground with engaged second gear the rear prop shaft is turning ,holding the rear turning prop shaft with my hands ,the front prop starts to turn so no drive going to the rear axle
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Once again.... There is something broken in the rear axle. You need to start by removing the drive flanges on both sides to see what is broken.
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Drive IS going to the rear axle: you've proven that the transmission drives the transfer case, and the transfer case is capable of turning both prop shafts.
The issue is where does the drive go after it enters the rear differential- a broken 1/2 shaft or rounded splines on the drive caps will present symptoms exactly as you've described.
You've received sound advice from some knowledgeable people, time to act on it!
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fwiw, you should be able to drive your truck in diff lock.
This will confirm for you that the transfer case and transmission are fine.
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splines are fine
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splines are fine
If you are 100% certain of that, then you need to keep going.

Three possible failures....

1) Drive flange splines (not the half shaft splines).

2) Half shaft broken.

3) Differential broken.
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diff lock mode exactly the same behavior
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If applying the driveshaft brake gave the car drive and applying the CDL didn't, then I don't think the CDL is engaging.
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So in post #9 are you saying you can grab the rear prop shaft with your hands and stop it?
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Old May 4th, 2016, 12:06 AM
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yes not enough power on rear prop
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Old May 4th, 2016, 12:30 AM
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if the car is in first gear with out the handbrake applied taking your foot of the clutch to engage the gear but nothing happens the car does not drive,applying
the handbrake on then the front prop shaft turns and the car operates like fwd vehicle
using differential lock exactly the same behavior
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