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Old September 16th, 2008, 10:45 PM
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Buck, you Sir are a cage snob. You forget that some of us don't want to bounce our cages off of anything.
I am a cage snob! I think that cages should do something, even if you don't "want" to use them. I am a stickler about this type of thing and I think the rover cage in stock form provides very little except for a false sense of security. Even if you don't ever offroad, I would change it out. But hey, to each his own, you probably won't ever need it.

And, in my defense, it is the only thing I am snobish about on a rover.
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Old September 16th, 2008, 10:52 PM
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I am a cage snob! I think that cages should do something, even if you don't "want" to use them. I am a stickler about this type of thing and I think the rover cage in stock form provides very little except for a false sense of security. Even if you don't ever offroad, I would change it out. But hey, to each his own, you probably won't ever need it.
Although I agree that a Safety Devices style cage is not as tough as what a weld in cage could be, that is a given for sure with no dispute here. I do have to disagree some that the stock cage is useless and only gives a false sense of security.
I have rebuilt many a Defender that has rolled at high speed, flipped, had huge trees land on them, etc and although the trucks were screwed up, in each case (so far) I am rebuilding those trucks for the same owner (meaning he/she survived and still wants to own the vehicle).
Example of a 110 that was hit by an 18 wheeler during an interstate lane change and rolled and skidded down the highway from 70 mph. Owner walked away with a headache. You can see the 18 wheeler tire mark on the tub / door area.

http://www.eastcoastrover.com/161.html

Its not a rock crawler cage... but it isn't crap either.

You want false security?? Drive a Euro spec truck with no cage at all.
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Old September 16th, 2008, 11:09 PM
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Although I agree that a Safety Devices style cage is not as tough as what a weld in cage could be, that is a given for sure with no dispute here. I do have to disagree some that the stock cage is useless and only gives a false sense of security.
I have rebuilt many a Defender that has rolled at high speed, flipped, had huge trees land on them, etc and although the trucks were screwed up, in each case (so far) I am rebuilding those trucks for the same owner (meaning he/she survived and still wants to own the vehicle).
Example of a 110 that was hit by an 18 wheeler during an interstate lane change and rolled and skidded down the highway from 70 mph. Owner walked away with a headache. You can see the 18 wheeler tire mark on the tub / door area.

http://www.eastcoastrover.com/161.html

Its not a rock crawler cage... but it isn't crap either.

You want false security?? Drive a Euro spec truck with no cage at all.
Good point. I shouldn't imply it is worthless. But,,,, I will say the front portion of NAS 90 cages leave a lot to be desired, to be as nice as I can. The bed cages seem to be okay. It is just a shame that they didn't do a better job because they really could have and made it look near the same.

BTW: Since you have had the bulkhead all alone and stripped down, how huch do you think they weight?
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Does anyone know if you can remove the inner portion of the NAS 110 cage with the seats and headliner in place? I removed and reinstalled it with them out, but I'd like to pull it out briefly again now and the driver seat, rear bench and headliner are all installed.
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Front headliner has to come out with front seats pulled forward
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Damn, Ok, Thanks for the quick reply!
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Old October 23rd, 2013, 11:36 PM
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Yeah, can't see how you'd do it without dropping the headliner.
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