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Old September 30th, 2011, 05:13 PM
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D-90 vs. FJ Cruiser

From a technical perspective, how does a stock D-90 matchup to a stock Toyota FJ Cruiser for general off roading and light rock crawling? Yes, these are two different trucks that appeal to two different markets. Not trying to start a flame war -- just interested in the technical capabilities or differences between the two trucks when pushed to their respective design limits. I participated in the FJ Summit in Ouray and had saw those in action and hope to do the same in a D-90 one day.
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Old September 30th, 2011, 05:38 PM
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I'd imagine they perform at least as well as a d-90. They are a little bit bigger as far as wheelbase goes, but the specs seem like a whole lot of awesome. The engines are 6cyl (vs. the rover V8), but it's a big 6 (4.0L) that makes about 260 hp, 271 lbs of torque. I'm not sure what the rover v8 makes for torque (which is the important number for this obviously), but the 'Yota has about 80 horses on a '90. Gas mileage looks comperable, 15-20. I like that if you opt for the 6 speed manual transmission you get an electronic locker in the rear diff standard.
Heck, I just like that you can get it with just a manual transmission. Oh yeah, *cough* better electrical system *cough*.
I wonder if you can get it with the unintended acceleration package? Ha!
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Old September 30th, 2011, 06:17 PM
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I own both trucks and I can say they are both capable rigs in stock form. You will have no trouble taking a stock D90 in the Ouray region. In generalizations the D90 is clearly a superior offroad vehicle. I can tell you the fj cruiser has more creature comforts than a D90. So....if you are traveling very far to get to your offroad destination, the fj might be a better suit for your needs.

When my D90 was more stock that it is now, I wheeled the same trails I took my built FJC on and had a little more difficulty on those trails. It wasn't the truck's fault, it was the driver's transition (me) from being used to wheeling an automatic versus wheeling a manual transmission.

That being said, as time goes by, I will be wheeling the D90 more than the FJ as it really is a more challenging (and fun) experience.
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Old September 30th, 2011, 09:23 PM
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I had a heavily modifiedFJ Cruiser in the past and currently have a D-90. I agree with Amity. Both are capable I prefer the 90 over the FJ Cruiser for the trails. I do miss the comfort of the FJ Cruiser sometimes when going on longer trips particularly with my kids and wife. 4 people in the FJ Cruiser is much nicer then in the D-90. I will say I still wheel with some of my FJ Cruiser buddies and their rigs go everywhere my D-90 goes.
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Having spent a couple of days on a Bill Burke course with 5 FJs (I was in my D90) I can say I was not particularly impressed. If nothing else, the solid axles of the D90 were much better for the rocks of Moab than the the independent suspension of the FJs. The reverse is probably true on the highway.
The other part of the design that bothered me is the poor rear visibility in the FJ.
Depreciation is another issue (I was in finance for 30+ years). The D90 has strong demand, a limited supply and the new feminized D100 concept should just enhance the existing NAS D90s demand.
Lastly, if having other people excited about your rig is important, the D90 wins hands down. I cannot drive mine without someone giving me a thumbs up or asking questions about it.
The most proficient driver of the FJs on that course later sought me out when I was considering selling the D90 (he was, and maybe still is on this forum) and sometime later bought one himself.
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Old October 3rd, 2011, 06:10 PM
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Anyone ever trailer the D90 with your FJ Cruiser?
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I trailered my 90 behind my RR 4.6, it did just fine.
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If you can't afford the D90 do the Yota but if you have the money then the Defender hands down. The green just gets in the blood.
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I have them both (D-90 since new, FJ-TT for 3 years) and no question the D-90 is the best for me off-road. Besides the Defenders climbing power and agility you have better visibility and better feel for what what you are doing. The FJ is a real fun vehicle and perfect for an everyday driver, soccer moms, and light off-roading. My Trail Teams edition is lifted and has a little better clearance than a standard FJ but for the overall outdoor experience I'm 100% Defender. The only down sde of the Defender is the 1000+ mile highway trip to get to great off-roading in New Mexico and Colorado.
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Everyone - thanks for the info. I hope to find out first had next weekend at the Big Dogs event at the Cove.
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