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Old June 11th, 2012, 12:29 PM
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So I was working on my 1994 defender 90 and I found this big Bosch fuse. I saw an opening for it in the fusebox so I stuck it in and heard a click. I then tried to start my car and it doesn't make any sounds although it turns all the way without starting... PLEASE HELP!! If you know anything I would appreciate it!! Thanks
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Old June 11th, 2012, 12:48 PM
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What do you mean you turned it all the way? are talking about the ignition switch? if your engine isn't turning over, then it's the feed to the starter solenoid that is the issue. there is no fuse IIRC between the battery and starter solenoid main wire. only ignition switch to starter solenoid. engine running after turning over is a different set of wires/process. Was your engine running before you put the fuse in? did you pull it back out and try it? why was there an empty fuse slot in your main big fuse block anyway? all questions running through my head.
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Old June 11th, 2012, 12:50 PM
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you've blown a fuse ... take them out carefully and check them ... replace them with the correct rating ones ... it that doesn't fix it ... replace the silver relays.

In future don't stick fuses in unless they are the correct rating and you know it should be there.
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Old June 11th, 2012, 01:34 PM
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I believe that there is a relay spot or two open in the 94.

Not sure why you would stick a relay into it...

Did you pull out said relay and try restarting?

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Old June 11th, 2012, 01:44 PM
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yes i pulled it out and i am trying to find the relay. sorry i am a teenager and was just curious why there was an empty slot and was also being really dumb i realize that. i put it in because there was an extra relay in the parts box. thanks for your help let me know where i can get the relay please. i put the silver relay in the empty black slot.

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Old June 11th, 2012, 01:55 PM
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Pretty sure the only relays you should have on the right side are your Starter Relay and your Lighting Relay Module (see attached).

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...2&d=1337268665

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http://www.internet-tools.co.uk/land...l%20(1993).pdf
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Old June 11th, 2012, 02:01 PM
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i know but i need another relay because my car wont start up and i think i blew a different relay because all my fuses are working so i need to find out which relay is blown. my lights turn on and my brights work. my clock is working. but when i turn the key to the usual starting point, it doesn't make a sound at all. it doesn't even click or anything so i am thinking it is the ignition relay/fuse which is the white open slot in the very left part of the picture i think... keep letting me know what you think because i am not 100% sure..

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Old June 11th, 2012, 02:01 PM
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you have blown one of the large fuses in the engine bay
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Old June 11th, 2012, 02:04 PM
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you have blown one of the large fuses in the engine bay
so what do i do? and what do i need?
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Old June 11th, 2012, 02:08 PM
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I usually start here. There are cross-references somewhere to relays you may be able to buy at a local hardware store, but it's been a long time since I've seen those lists.

http://www.roverparts.com/Nxt/search...on=Defender+90
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Old June 11th, 2012, 02:25 PM
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you have blown one of the large fuses in the engine bay
so what do i do? and what do i need?
Under the hood on the driveside against the firewall is a fuse block (should have a cover on it). Inside of this (under the cover) are your Maxi-fuses, essentially bigger fuses that run the main circuits for a bunch of different things (main lighting circuit, etc). I'd start by removing the cover and pulling these - carefully - one by one and inspecting them to see if any are blown. The Maxi-fuses should be available at any Napa or decent autoparts store locally.

If none are blown move to the inside fuse panel in the passenger compartment of the truck (right above where you posted the pic of).

I *thought* that empty relay spot that is shown (that you stuck the Bosch in) was for A/C? In many trucks - including mine - that aren't using A/C that relay spot is just empty. Don't quote me on that, but I'm pretty sure that's what the middle one is for.
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Old June 11th, 2012, 02:26 PM
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you petrol folks have a fuel pump relay as well, don't you?
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Old June 11th, 2012, 02:27 PM
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There is also a spade end connector in the slot next to the two 20amp yellow fuses ... that shouldn't be there!

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you petrol folks have a fuel pump relay as well, don't you?

we also have spark plugs ... but given it's not cranking ... we should fix that first no?

you diesel dudes have a starter motor as well, don't you?

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Old June 11th, 2012, 02:31 PM
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There is also a spade end connector in the slot next to the two 20amp yellow fuses ... that shouldn't be there!
It's just an aux spot on the fuse panel...probably no biggie, maybe someone had something hooked up in there at some point (6th one over):
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Old June 11th, 2012, 02:41 PM
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It's just an aux spot on the fuse panel...probably no biggie, maybe someone had something hooked up in there at some point (6th one over):
yep I like to leave random wires connected to fuse boxes without being fused all over my truck ... now I fixed the oil lines I'm looking for a new fire hazard :-)

With plugging in random relays into spaces they don't belong ... this dude needs all the protection we can give!
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yep I like to leave random wires connected to fuse boxes without being fused all over my truck ... now I fixed the oil lines I'm looking for a new fire hazard :-)

With plugging in random relays into spaces they don't belong ... this dude needs all the protection we can give!
Probably right...but put a test light on it to see if it's even hot. If not, he probably shouldn't have to worry about ripping things out just yet . But even if that was fused, not having a fuse is accomplishing the same thing...not passing current on to the other 1/2 of the connection (if there even is another half).
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Old June 11th, 2012, 02:54 PM
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I would have done that too as a teenager... Must have cool parents if they bought you or helped you buy a Defender.
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Old June 11th, 2012, 02:56 PM
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Probably right...but put a test light on it to see if it's even hot. If not, he probably shouldn't have to worry about ripping things out just yet . But even if that was fused, not having a fuse is accomplishing the same thing...not passing current on to the other 1/2 of the connection (if there even is another half).

my money is on that being the hot side of the fuse ... unless someone was looking to use it as a random ground ...
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Old June 11th, 2012, 03:02 PM
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Truck looked pretty stock the last we saw of it - no aux lights or anything like that. Just some non-stock body wear.

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ad.php?t=30276

It looks like it had an alarm of some sort though.
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I would have done that too as a teenager... Must have cool parents if they bought you or helped you buy a Defender.

Mowabb is definitely a cool guy and no stranger to the trail.
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