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Old October 11th, 2016, 11:22 AM
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Yes, I've seen it. With the 3.8, you have similar problems as the 6BT, in that you need really high gearing, due to the low redline. You will want as tall a high gear as possible in the gearbox plus a 1:1 transfer case ratio. Do the gearing math before anything else.
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Old October 11th, 2016, 04:13 PM
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The 6.7 or 5.9 Cummins diesel probably weigh three times a Rover V8 engine. That can't be good for handling, suspension or handling.
It actually works ok because most of the engine is behind the axle and most of us run Salisbury front axles with their extra load capacity. It actually handles better than a standard V8 SW, probably partly due to it being freshly built from the chassis up with uprated bushes /springs etc. Extra weight over a Tdi is pretty comparable to having a winch and winch bumper but in a better location.

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Old October 11th, 2016, 04:45 PM
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What's he running for tranny? I would love to hear and see a vid of that thing running.
Coming soon, just waiting on the new Go Pro! Tweaked it up to about 500HP with an edge tuner last week so sounds good!

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Old October 11th, 2016, 05:03 PM
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Here's some pics of Simon Cochrans awesome build, another member on the FB Cummins Landrover group. 5.9 6BT running compound turbos and 60psi of boost, air suspension, 101 FC axles, Porsche 6 pot calipers and every other mod you can think of...

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Totally agree with you ! now the big question
nv4500 or 4l85e ?
i spoke to a bunch of adapter company's and since its a isf common rail they have not made anything for that engine but i'm assuming its a SAE# 3 bellhousing which i could adapt to
Go look at an Allison 1000 series. They make all kinda stuff. Might be a bit more expensive, but probably cheaper than home brewing something. I know they make 2000 series transmissions to put behind the 4.5s. So I can only assume the 3.8 would share.
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DIESEL all the way....
I work with isb /isl/isx all day great power and reliable the new rear geartrain engines are much quieter ..common rail is the way to go but there way too heavy in my opinion so now theres the 2.8 /3.8 isf i think these will be great engines for defender use now we just have to find someone willing to take on that project....who could it be ?
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Here's some pics of Simon Cochrans awesome build, another member on the FB Cummins Landrover group. 5.9 6BT running compound turbos and 60psi of boost, air suspension, 101 FC axles, Porsche 6 pot calipers and every other mod you can think of...

Andrew
Thank you for sharing the photos, Andrew.

That is "dead sexy"


I like the green flames, too !

Anyway, gives me hope for mine...

Thanks, again.
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Go look at an Allison 1000 series. They make all kinda stuff. Might be a bit more expensive, but probably cheaper than home brewing something. I know they make 2000 series transmissions to put behind the 4.5s. So I can only assume the 3.8 would share.
Have to do some measurements that trans is huge ...don't want to cut up my 130 that much. But if i could get it in there i'm all for it

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Go look at an Allison 1000 series. They make all kinda stuff. Might be a bit more expensive, but probably cheaper than home brewing something. I know they make 2000 series transmissions to put behind the 4.5s. So I can only assume the 3.8 would share.
Have to do some measurements that trans is huge ...don't want to cut up my 130 that much. But if i could get it in there i'm all for it
I have the allison 1000 in my 130 but i'm running a Duramax. I also lifted the body 2.5 inches to get the motor/trans back further. I'm akso thinking about setting up a cummins / allison combo but i have to complete my rebuild 1st.

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Old October 12th, 2016, 05:42 PM
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Gaz we need pictures stat !
Duramax allison sweat combo ...

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Old October 12th, 2016, 06:01 PM
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I can see an Allison 1000/duramax in a 130 but that's a mighty lump....
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Guys,
Don't want to hijack this Cummins thread but as there are inquiries RE: Allison i feel it is relevant. I have my own build and phot'os in Truck Build-up's & Restores folder. I haven't updated for a while but look for my username.




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I guess ill have to start a build thread ..here's side by side 300tdi to 3.8 isf......

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Flywheel housing looks crazy deep
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The bell is similar to ISL ..sae#3
In pictures it looks much deeper ..
Its about 2" from faceof flywheel to edge of bellhousing

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Yep. Looks like a SAE 3 housing.

Wonder if it would be easier to adapt the rover bellhousing and flywheel to the Cummins. Hopefully just drill a few holes. and roll with the rover starter.
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Yep. Looks like a SAE 3 housing.

Wonder if it would be easier to adapt the rover bellhousing and flywheel to the Cummins. Hopefully just drill a few holes. and roll with the rover starter.
At 443 ftlb of torque at 1300 rpm the r380 would not live very long even with upgrades .


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