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On 8 Sep 2016, at 17:17, Doug Crowther <doug@dividingcreekimports.com> wrote:

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Can it be done on LHD?,
haven't looked at links yet
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The 6.7 or 5.9 Cummins diesel probably weigh three times a Rover V8 engine. That can't be good for handling, suspension or handling.
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The 6.7 or 5.9 Cummins diesel probably weigh three times a Rover V8 engine. That can't be good for handling, suspension or handling.
Meh. Heavy duty springs.
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Anyone see this one: https://youtu.be/hWdHn0ZFFPE
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Anyone see this one: https://youtu.be/hWdHn0ZFFPE
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Here's ISF 2.8 coming in at 540 lbs, 300 lbs lighter than the 4BT engines. Skip to 2:20 for the engine porn:



Get yours here: https://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...857.0.0.f5jLbS
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A Capitol One Platinum Card review?

Here's ISF 2.8 coming in at 540 lbs, 300 lbs lighter than the 4BT engines. Skip to 2:20 for the engine porn:
Can you even buy it though? I had a look around and did not see anything obvious. If you could and the price was reasonable, it sure seems like a good choice for Defenders. It would be a fairly easy swap with acceptable power and torque.
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Can you even buy it though? I had a look around and did not see anything obvious. If you could and the price was reasonable, it sure seems like a good choice for Defenders. It would be a fairly easy swap with acceptable power and torque.
I'll stick with my Int'l HS2.8. That is if I every get it back from Pendy.
I heard in the video that the Baby Cummins had electronics.
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I heard in the video that the Baby Cummins had electronics.
Yes, it is modern engine... Common rail. Better to compare to other modern engines.

https://cumminsengines.com/showcase-...specifications

There is also a 3.8 liter version. https://cumminsengines.com/brochure-...?brochureid=61
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Can it be done on LHD?,
haven't looked at links yet
You can't use the stock steering box on a LHD. P38 Range Rover steering box works.
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I have been looking into the 6.7 12V for a while now--it just doesn't make sense to me in the 90 unless it is for a rock specific machine. Too short a wheel base, too tall and too heavy an engine. too many things I would have to change. I personally think it is best suited to the longer wheelbase of the 110, but still a shoehorn fit.
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Info on the Cummins ISF

I know the marketing guy at Cummins who is running their ISF program, we've gotten to know each other while working on the launch of our Nissan Titan XD with the Cummins 5.0L V8. They are just kicking-off a crate motor program with the 2.8L ISF and he is very interested in the Defender market (among others.)

This is a really nice motor for something the size of a 90 or 110. I've drive it in a Nissan Frontier with both a ZF 8HP and a 6-speed manual (I think an Aisin, it was the stock Frontier trans) and the thing rocks.

Cummins will be at Overland East for those who want a close look. I think they will probably bring one of the Frontiers with the ISF.

If any of you are interested, PM me and I'll get you contact details.

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Well ask him what their proposed crate price for and engine with standalone management system will be. That is the million dollar question
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You can't use the stock steering box on a LHD. P38 Range Rover steering box works.
P38 steering box is a better steering box anyway. Never seen one of those leaking or needing a rebuild.
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So you drop a ISF 2.8 in. Its torque is so much more than the 300tdi that a stronger idea than the R380 is needed. https://cumminsengines.com/uploads/docs/4971326.pdf
So what do you do for transmission?
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Probably the easiest is an NV3500. The adapters already exist. The MT82 might be a good choice, if someone made an adapter for the engine.
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Should we start a dedicated Cummings ISF 2.8 thread? If the price is right this may turn out to be the perfect 50 State legal Defender diesel conversion in years to come.
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So you drop a ISF 2.8 in. Its torque is so much more than the 300tdi that a stronger idea than the R380 is needed. https://cumminsengines.com/uploads/docs/4971326.pdf So what do you do for transmission?
It has less torque than the International HS2.8 TGV. That has 277 lb/ft and I run the R380 behind it.
But it is right at the R380s maximum recommended range.
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Should we start a dedicated Cummings ISF 2.8 thread? If the price is right this may turn out to be the perfect 50 State legal Defender diesel conversion in years to come.
What makes it 50 state legal? It is not used in any road vehicles in the USA, is it? Even if it was, you would need urea and particulate filters to be considered legal and you don't want to be dealing with that crap.
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