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Old May 26th, 2005, 08:33 PM
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Thumbs up Cost of a new engine

I bought a 97 defender, need a new engine and convert an automatic to 5 spd or a new auto transmission, anyone can tell me what the cost gonna be? I really love the truck!

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Old May 26th, 2005, 09:34 PM
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http://www.carcannibal.com/rover/pages.asp?page=engines
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Old May 26th, 2005, 09:46 PM
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Sell it to me.

If you are paying for a new motor at anything approaching retail it will be really spendy.

How much of an engine does it need? Short block?

Auto trans is about $1300 rebuilt from ericson (it is spelled funny so I am not sure exactly erikson erickson etc.)
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Old May 26th, 2005, 11:06 PM
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Cheap, if you go lightly used. Whole shebang, $3000 or so.
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Old May 26th, 2005, 11:15 PM
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Ray,

You didn't mention what new engine you wanted... I assume a 4.0... but have you ever thought of going diesel ?

http://www.nav-international.com.br/...?Idioma=2&Id=5

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT


One day...

Oh, and if you don't mind me asking... How come you need an engine ? Did you buy it like that ?

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Old May 27th, 2005, 02:44 AM
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why don't you just have yours rebuilt? If your not looking to upgrade, that would be your cheapest way to go.
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I may be interested in your auto setup complete with interior console to convert my 94 to an auto.
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Old May 27th, 2005, 07:06 PM
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Thank you for all ur valueable info!! the links are very helpfull!
One more question for all the defender90 owner, I am live in nyc, i don't think there will be alot of chance for me to go off road, between auto and 5 spd, does it make a big difference? and what is the difference beside better pick up on 5 spd, what else? Nyc had a shit load of traffic, sometime I really preferred automatic, what do u think??
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Old May 27th, 2005, 07:11 PM
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1. there is a guy in ma selling a 3.9 motor for I think under a grand.
2. my take on 5spd vs. auto, get what you want and what makes sense for you. in nyc I'd consider the auto, even though I'm a diehard stick shifter. YMMV on this.
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If I was not going offroad I would really prefer the auto. Traffic sucks with a stick, you always seem to just get up to that second gear just before you are forced back down to first. For offroad, the stick is very important when things get extremely harry, you don't want a small computer chip making decisions for you.
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Old May 27th, 2005, 07:30 PM
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What is the life span on the automatic transmission?
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...you don't want a small computer chip making decisions for you.
Uhh...what chip's in a ZF? Low 1 or 2, not much of decision.
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Most auto's are computer controlled, maybe LR are not. And your right, there is not much of a decision with autos, which is why some people like them and why a lot don't. My point was, when you start getting into really tough terrain, you need the extra control of a stick, but for city driving, an auto is a better bet in my opinion.
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Down hill I like a manual--that is just about the only time. But a lot of times, that is crucial. And sometimes, it is the crucial bit. I like my manual, but I also have an auto and it rocks too. 6 of one, half dozen of the other.
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Ah, the ole' breaking thing. Stick the auto in 1 or 2 - you're in manual mode.

I like being able to brake and not stall, instead of frantically coordinating with two feet in a manual.

It depends on one's ability, I guess. I prefer to focus on other thigns and an auto gives me one less worry. Plus, it's a daily driver so need I say more.
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Aside from being easier to drive, the only real performance difference is that autos are inherently less efficient, because they spend much of their time operating at something less than 100% power transfer.

And its not so much having a computer chip pick when to shift for you, its an hydraulic valving system "hard coded" to particular settings (though many modern auto trannies of course incorporate computers for this purpose).
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Why not try a 4.6 engine with a few more horse in it???
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Old May 29th, 2005, 07:57 PM
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4.6?

what is the cost?
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Hi, Ray
I'll give you an idea of what the high side looks like:

New 4.6 litre long engine---------------------------------L 3250.00
Stage 1 upgrade inc. Piper 270/110 camshaft-----------L 600.00
New oil pump and gears-----------------------------------L 100.00
Tornado ECU chip X36-------------------------------------L 395.00
Delivery to Denver International Airport-----------------L 275.00
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L 4620.00
That's the price of the engine I ordered from RPI engineering in the UK that is awaiting clearance from customs at DIA right now.
Now, before the flame throwers get fired up to tell you you could have a rebuilt one here in the states for a third that amount (which is true), or that you are damn near to the price of a diesel (for another 2-3 grand you could do a tdi or 2.8 the right way I'm told), that's what I paid.

Like I said, this is an idea of what the high side looks like. Everyone's situation is different. I have very little free time from work and every free moment I have in the garage with my 90 is precious, if limited. I think of it as paying for piece of mind. It's something I've been wanting to do for a while now, and because I am not the most adept mechanic you are likely to meet, this is a way of spending some quality time with the 90 with the least possibility of my project going balls up.

In any case, you asked...

Best of luck, whatever you do.

Rod
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