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Old February 14th, 2012, 01:05 PM
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Just spend a winter driving around northern VA. VDOT has 307,000 tons of salt 401,000 gal of liquid calcium, and 150,000 gal of liquid magnesium to dispense this winter. This is what remains after applying these chemicals, including the salt brine, following a dusting of snow on Saturday that was gone by Sunday. No wonder it is hard to find cars over 10/15-yrs old around here.
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Old February 14th, 2012, 01:36 PM
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Crazy isn't it? We barely get a dusting and they know the ground's warm so it won't stick, so what do they do...? Our roads up here are still white from all the crap they poured out. There's so much salt laying everywhere. My neighborhood even has a salt speed bump.
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Old February 14th, 2012, 03:06 PM
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I've been furious to say the least...took some similar pictures yesterday out of sheer horror. There was so much salt piled up that it looked like snow (which, by the way it's been 40-50 degrees...TELL THESE IDIOTS THINGS DON'T FREEZE!). It makes me want to get involved in politics and put an end to this ridiculousness. Even in NY they don't do a fraction of this.

Do they even have any idea how bad this is for the Potomac and surrounding watershed area? It's insane.
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Old February 14th, 2012, 03:11 PM
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FYI we have white roads in the Chicagoland all winter.....this is why I will store my 110 during those months.
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Old February 14th, 2012, 03:17 PM
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FYI we have white roads in the Chicagoland all winter.....this is why I will store my 110 during those months.
2x. My 90 will remain parked in the garage until the third spring shower.
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Old February 14th, 2012, 03:17 PM
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7 years in Chicago winters and our Jeep Cherokee's floorpan completely rusted out. It was my brother's car at the time and I remember him cutting the floor out and restoring it with sheet steel and a mig welder.

Between the road salt and the potholes, there's almost no reason to own anything nice with 4 wheels in the city.
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Old February 14th, 2012, 04:21 PM
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There was so much salt piled up that it looked like snow (which, by the way it's been 40-50 degrees...TELL THESE IDIOTS THINGS DON'T FREEZE!). It makes me want to get involved in politics and put an end to this ridiculousness. Even in NY they don't do a fraction of this.
We are going through the same thing in NY/NJ. I think that city/county/state workers want to spread salt even when it is not needed just to get the overtime, and their supervisors want that salt spread so their budgets don't get cut for the following years. It is insane.
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Old February 14th, 2012, 04:24 PM
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If you have never spent any time out west, you would be amazed at the number of old cars still on the road. And not just sports or enthusiasts cars, but everyday grocery getters, sedans and pick ups.

-Jeff
Agree. I was in Jackson Hole last week and there was this original 66' 3/4 ton Ford work truck that was weathered just right. It was gorgeous. You will never find something like that out east.
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Old February 14th, 2012, 04:25 PM
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If you have never spent any time out west, you would be amazed at the number of old cars still on the road. And not just sports or enthusiasts cars, but everyday grocery getters, sedans and pick ups.

-Jeff
Our 1985 BMW 524td, 27 years old & still running strong with no rust !!

Go figure a 2 ton car, old technology engine, 36mpg @ 65mph.

It's no rocket ship...but that's what motorcycles are for !
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Old February 14th, 2012, 05:56 PM
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My 90 will never be out in that kind of weather. However, my P38 workhorse is no stranger to salt, so my second home after a storm is the self serve car wash place. I give the undercarriage a thorough rinse after a salt dump and after 14 years it looks great.
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Old February 14th, 2012, 06:08 PM
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Just took the truck to the self-service car wash and blasted the salt off the bottom today. No escaping it in Chicagoland like Brett said. However driving the 90 in deep snow almost makes up for it.
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Old February 14th, 2012, 08:41 PM
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15 years is all my D1 lasted before the body parted company with the chassis or threatened to.
Ok beating the s-h-i-t out of it probably doesn't help.
So that's why I'm rebuilding a 90....
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Do you think they compare how much it costs them to have to replace their municipal trucks every few years due to rust to how much less they spend on the crappy chemicals that eat the shit out of everything? I'm assuming there are better products out there that potentially cost a bit more but are not as corrosive.
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Old February 14th, 2012, 10:16 PM
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Old February 14th, 2012, 11:31 PM
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Do you think they compare how much it costs them to have to replace their municipal trucks every few years due to rust to how much less they spend on the crappy chemicals that eat the shit out of everything? I'm assuming there are better products out there that potentially cost a bit more but are not as corrosive.
Yeah, sand....not sure I'm interested in the tradeoff.
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Old February 15th, 2012, 12:48 AM
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Growing up in New England, sand was the preferred treatment. Talk about a free sand blasting job on your vehicle. Front end exterior destroyed, pitted windshields. No thanks. I'll take salt that I can rinse off.
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Old February 15th, 2012, 08:51 AM
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The point that's being missed here is that the morons in the VA/DC area don't realize that if it's 50 degrees out then it won't/can't snow. If we actually had snow and freezing temperatures then I'd say it may be justified to use the stuff.
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Old February 15th, 2012, 09:17 AM
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I get it. I think popeohana hit the nail on the head. With the lack of real weather this winter, we've seen that on LI too.


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We are going through the same thing in NY/NJ. I think that city/county/state workers want to spread salt even when it is not needed just to get the overtime, and their supervisors want that salt spread so their budgets don't get cut for the following years. It is insane.
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Just took the truck to the self-service car wash and blasted the salt off the bottom today. No escaping it in Chicagoland like Brett said. However driving the 90 in deep snow almost makes up for it.
Iíve always thought those coin operated wash places with the high-pressure wands recycle water and I canít see them desalinating it. Best to check as this could make our corrosion problems worse. However, perhaps the final rinse setting that trickles out is fresh water that is salt free, but this is not enough to clear out the salty crap water from the high-pressure setting.
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Old February 15th, 2012, 09:32 AM
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Iíve always thought those coin operated wash places with the high-pressure wands recycle water and I canít see them desalinating it. Best to check as this could make our corrosion problems worse. However, perhaps the final rinse setting that trickles out is fresh water that is salt free, but this is not enough to clear out the salty crap water from the high-pressure setting.
Crikey, is that true? I've hit the self-serve out in Fairfax....may be the last time I do so!
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