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Old May 8th, 2008, 01:06 AM
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Converting from SW rear door to swing out tailgate?

Considering changing from a full SW door to a NAS style swing out tailgate and had a few questions.

1. Are the lower 2 hinges the same / in the same location on the SW door and the swing out?

2. Are the door handles / latching mechanism the same between the sw and the swing out? If not what needs replaced / changed / modified

3. Looking at the NAS swing out tailgate it has several holes that I would not need or want since I am not planning to install a NAS style 3rd brake light. If possible I would prefer to modify a Series / defender fold down by adding the holes I need rather than filling holes.

Any other tip or hints?

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Old May 8th, 2008, 08:48 AM
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dave,

1) Hinges are the same but different location. doesnt matter as you will drill new holes

2) door handles / latching mechanism the same between the sw and the swing out

yes but the striker will need to be moved down

3) series gate will work, but much lighter than the NAS gate

contact me off list if you need more info
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Old May 8th, 2008, 02:39 PM
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series gate also much cheaper than the NAS swing out..

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Originally Posted by dave_lucas
Considering changing from a full SW door to a NAS style swing out tailgate and had a few questions.

1. Are the lower 2 hinges the same / in the same location on the SW door and the swing out?

2. Are the door handles / latching mechanism the same between the sw and the swing out? If not what needs replaced / changed / modified

3. Looking at the NAS swing out tailgate it has several holes that I would not need or want since I am not planning to install a NAS style 3rd brake light. If possible I would prefer to modify a Series / defender fold down by adding the holes I need rather than filling holes.

Any other tip or hints?

Thanks,

Dave

All right Lucus What did you buy, we need a picture. I know you, and I am pretty sure this was not a hypothetical question.
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All right Lucus What did you buy, we need a picture. I know you, and I am pretty sure this was not a hypothetical question.
Guilty as charged

I was looking for a 110 but Doug kept buying them before I could and I came across this 1 owner with full service history and low miles. It is being stored for a little bit waiting for the born on date to arrive as I jumped the gun a little bit.
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Guilty as charged

I was looking for a 110 but Doug kept buying them before I could and I came across this 1 owner with full service history and low miles. It is being stored for a little bit waiting for the born on date to arrive as I jumped the gun a little bit.
Not mine, but thought it might help you out.


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Old May 8th, 2008, 11:16 PM
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So tailgate part number 320604 would work then correct?

Picture of the NAS vs the Series part number 320604.

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Ron,

Thanks for the info, I will hit you up for more info soon.

Jeff,

I think I am just going to go with the POE style setup, the full doors that I have seen cut look odd to me.

Tom,

Thanks for the link, I came across that one the other day but it looks pretty rough so I decided to pas on it.


Anyone happen to have the part number for the latch and door catch?
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That is one CLEAN truck, Dave. When can it come over?
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Not sure yet, I need to find out the born on date and a few other things. The reg is mid 84 so the born on date should be prior to that. In the mean time it will be having a few things done to it.
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have you considered getting a second door and cutting it down?
The problem with a cut-down door is that the positioning of the cutout for the door handle makes it look really bad when cut off. Its right near the top and looks very awkward.
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Isn't the reason on the POE's for that because of the tire carrier?
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I think a cutoff rear door with a spare hanging off it would be even worse than a full size door with a spare hanging off it. One less hinge to carry the already excessive load.

The brake light bar (and the spare on the carrier) is the only reason that a POE has to have the tail gate opened first. The lift gate in series config is designed to be open first - by far the most convenient way.

Personally, I dont think cutting a door is anything more than a waste of a door and a cost-cutting measure.
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SW door

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Wanna sell your SW door?

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