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Old October 16th, 2015, 02:21 AM
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Converting a NAS D90 soft top to hard top

Is this possible? What parts are required, and are they available here in the US?

Thanks for any and all info.
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Old October 16th, 2015, 07:31 AM
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Yes it's possible, are you looking for permanent or for winter conversions. There is a reason I am asking...
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Permanent conversion.
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Old October 16th, 2015, 09:47 AM
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Why make the conversion? There are more 90 SWs than 90 STs. This makes SWs cheaper to come by and more readily available.
If making the conversion, Brian would be a good person to perform the switch (and licking his chops to get his hands on that cage for $$ 110 ST conversions....).
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Permanent conversion.
It's your vehicle, so obviously you should do what you want, but I believe the consensus is that the soft top NAS 90 is worth more than the station wagon. I would look for the fiberglass hardtop that goes over the ST cage, and just leave on as if it's permanent. That way if you ever do decide to sell it, it's still a ST. I think people have tried to sell NAS ST cages for $5000 or even more because they are hard to get (NLA new) and desirable.

Or if you do a full SW conversion, at least keep all of the ST parts, because you'll probably never find them again if you want to swap back.

Just my $0.02, and I'm no expert because I've never owned a NAS 90.
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Converting a NAS D90 soft top to hard top

Jafir: good to know, thanks for the info.
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It sounds like a winter conversion is more in order, "cheaper" to do, and allows one to keep all the ST parts on, especially the cage. The truck is in Southern California, any recommendations on a shop that can do this? I don't have the time or inclination to undertake this work.
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Old October 16th, 2015, 10:29 AM
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It sounds like a winter conversion is more in order, "cheaper" to do, and allows one to keep all the ST parts on, especially the cage. The truck is in Southern California, any recommendations on a shop that can do this? I don't have the time or inclination to undertake this work.
What is the winter conversion you speak of?

Considering how much space the cage takes up to store, i would just put a fume curtain on the B pillar, so that the cab is partitioned from the load area, which is way less space to heat. Installing a fume curtain is easy, and they are cheap (~$200), especially when compared to buying a hard top and paying someone to convert.
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I'm still confused why a hard top is necessary?
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something I'm going to do but way down the line is the following:

1. get a fiberglass top from d90tops.com. It's difficult to get OEM fiberglass hard tops in decent shape and the d90top has some additional support and superior materials.
2. Get a set of powered SW doors with hinges. When I want to go into hard top mode, it's 4 bolts, disconnecting a check guide and unplugging a harness to swap from the ST doors to the SW doors.

In Austin I'm 8 months no roof, 4 months with a roof. There is no way I'd do a permanent conversion.
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What is the winter conversion you speak of?

Considering how much space the cage takes up to store, i would just put a fume curtain on the B pillar, so that the cab is partitioned from the load area, which is way less space to heat. Installing a fume curtain is easy, and they are cheap (~$200), especially when compared to buying a hard top and paying someone to convert.
John,

This "winter conversion" sounds like a non-permanent solution to my original question. Almost like a hard top option on a convertible car.

The intent of my conversion initially was for a permanent solution, but it sounds like, from the various recommendations here, that the better option is to keep the ST cage and install a fiberglass roof, rather than do a "permanent" swap of parts. I'm in SoCal, so colder winter temperatures are not really an issue here, and are not the reason behind this conversion, it's rather wanting an SW truck as opposed to an ST.

It sounds crazy, I know, why not buy a SW instead of an ST from the get go, unfortunately, it's a little too late for that.
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hold on there...

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Why make the conversion? There are more 90 SWs than 90 STs. This makes SWs cheaper to come by and more readily available.
If making the conversion, Brian would be a good person to perform the switch (and licking his chops to get his hands on that cage for $$ 110 ST conversions....).

Now just wait a minute , just wait a minute......

I'm having difficulty deciphering LRFAQ, but can anyone give me the definitive answer as for all 3 years of 90's. The number of Soft tops vs hardtops?

Just curious....I know that there were 188 1995 Coniston Green Station Wagons...

Which by the way makes them more rare than the Willow Green 97 LE.

Just saying'..
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If your Defender is in pretty decent shape, another option might be buying a SW and selling the ST, and pocketing the difference.... of course then you are going from the a vehicle you know to one you don't, but I assume if you get it inspected by someone that knows what to look for, you could come out ahead.
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What year/color soft top do you have?
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edit - thought that ^^ was Keith
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Yes it's possible, are you looking for permanent or for winter conversions. There is a reason I am asking...

Brewie, check your PM.
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This is a permanent convesion that was done if you want detailed photos I can send them to you to give you a little flavor into what it could be like.
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Drove by as Stu was taking the pics of that one over the holidays.. You might want to "un" convert that one
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Drove by as Stu was taking the pics of that one over the holidays.. You might want to "un" convert that one
THen it will just be another yellow soft top...to much time and money someone will like this build itsa cool truck the cage in the back is pretty cool too. We sold it originally as a soft top
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