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Old May 30th, 2007, 11:18 PM
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Quick question on the anodizing. Never been able to keep black looking tight after a year or so on my mountain bike parts. Anyway to get them raw so I can get them powdercoated? A year in the midwest and the black anodizing will look really bad.

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No problem at all to get them with no anodize on them. If people want that they are more than welcome to let me know. I can also do Hard Anodizing on request for a few bucks more.

The parts are in production right now! They will be ready in a week or so. I will post pictures of the black ones as soon as I get them. Thanks everybody for your comments and your buys! I will contact everyone as soon as they are ready and post up here too.

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They look great ,what are you working on next ?
I do have something in final test right now actually. Details soon!
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Old June 1st, 2007, 04:03 PM
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Snow version

I just found this one on eBay and thought it was a good idea for those of us with the snow issue. Any interest in cooking some of these up?
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Old June 1st, 2007, 04:48 PM
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Those look great! I might be in for a set of black after I have seen a pic. Will the black fade over time? Any positive/negative vs. powdercoating black?


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Old June 1st, 2007, 05:30 PM
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Old June 2nd, 2007, 09:10 PM
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Those look great! I might be in for a set of black after I have seen a pic. Will the black fade over time? Any positive/negative vs. powdercoating black?


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I work a lot with anodized aluminum for tooling. Black anodize is always the most inconsistent, and tends to turn purple over time. I'd really recommend powdercoating black vs anodize. If you do anodize, clear seems to be more consistent and stays the same over time.
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Old June 2nd, 2007, 10:33 PM
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 01:21 PM
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Can the anodized stuff be painted easily at the point when the color turns? If yes, I'm interested in a black set.

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Old June 3rd, 2007, 07:04 PM
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Charles - If you're asking whether it can be powdercoated after anodize, the answer is maybe. Anodize sometimes includes a sealing process (depends upon how Buck specifies it), and I've heard that this does not allow the powdercoat to adhere well. There is also a natural sealing that occurs over time so even a non-sealed anodize may be difficult to powdercoat if it's been weathered for a while. I'd imagine this would apply to regular painting as well, but I don't know for sure. I'd say if you're really concerned about it changing color, you're better off to order it raw and either paint or powdercoat it yourself. That is unless Buck comes up with a powdercoat option. And hopefully he won't use the same powdercoaters that SafariGard does
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I was thinking more in terms of getting the anodized black and then just repainting with a rattle can later of needed - whether that would work well. If thats not a good idea, then I'd like to see pricing for powder coating up front.

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Hi Guys,

If this is a concirn to many, I can always have them powdercoated. I have a fantastic shop (not used by SG). If this is the way people want to go, I have no problem doing it. That being said, I am not a huge fan of powdercoat. I went with anodize for a reason. If everyone doesn't mind paying $5 more a vent or $110 total I can have them all Hard Anodized which is a much stronger and deeper process. I think the standard process is fine, but if you want the insurance, thats not a bad way to go.
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Buck - Curious why you prefer anodize for these parts. Apart from the color concerns, standard anodize is less than 0.001" thick and can scratch easily. Hard anodize is better (maybe 0.002-0.010" thick depending upon what you specify), but I've seen even stranger shades of black in hard anodize. If I was concerned about excessive coating thickness, I wouldn't powdercoat, but this part seems ideal for powdercoating. JMO. They look very nice BTW.
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Buck - Curious why you prefer anodize for these parts. Apart from the color concerns, standard anodize is less than 0.001" thick and can scratch easily. Hard anodize is better (maybe 0.002-0.010" thick depending upon what you specify), but I've seen even stranger shades of black in hard anodize. If I was concerned about excessive coating thickness, I wouldn't powdercoat, but this part seems ideal for powdercoating. JMO. They look very nice BTW.
Hey,

Good questions. I prefer it because I have not had great experience with powder coating in general. It seems to always chip or flake eventually. AL seems especially prone to this problem, but, I am no expert in this. I figured that anodize would be a great idea for clear for obvious reasons. For the Black, I figured that I would be able to refuse the parts if they were not up to my standards.

But, Like I said, I have no problem having them powdercoated if thats what people prefer. I have a connection to a great facility in Corona, CA for P.C. It's all about you guys, whatever is better.
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Old June 3rd, 2007, 11:42 PM
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Yeah, these post processes can be a PITA. There's nothing inherently bad with either one (anodize or powdercoat), but they require proper prep and process control. I think the nature of the industry is that the people doing the work are underpaid, and just don't care or aren't adequately trained. I've had expensive machined parts "lost" in the anodize tank. I've also had them banged around during racking. Keep in mind also that if you aren't satisfied with the anodize finish, they have to chemically strip it. This also removes some of the parent material. And if they strip it too long, forget about getting a decent finish (ask me how I know). Anyway, maybe because I deal so much with anodizing, I experience a lot more problems. But I have yet to have a problem with powdercoating although I do much less of it. It's good though that you're offering people the choices.
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Count me in for a set Black would be great.

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Those are really cool.
Why not make a batch and sell them through AB or something, as well as on the chat boards. There are a bunch of people that would want those if they had access to them, people not on the D90 boards. I know if they were available in a stockish looking black we could sell a lot of them.
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