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Old February 4th, 2016, 01:46 PM
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Clutch just failed...

So the clutch just failed in the classic. Pedal started sticking at the end of the commute this morning and then went to the floor when I tried to back out of the parking lot at lunch. No previous signs of an issue. Master cylinder still has fluid. Slave has some weird extra device prior to where the lines enter the slave. Is this normal? It's a 300tdi/R380. The line entering the slave also looks like it's crimped. But the sudden failure makes me think the arm failed... Any help appreciated, this is my daily driver right now!!
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Old February 4th, 2016, 01:47 PM
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Another picture of the extra device..
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Old February 4th, 2016, 01:51 PM
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No idea about the extra device but the fork hypothesis sounds right.
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Old February 4th, 2016, 01:55 PM
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A fork failure will give you a rock hard pedal that won't go down.
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Old February 4th, 2016, 01:57 PM
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A fork failure will give you a rock hard pedal that won't go down.
If you google it sometimes it goes solid but then down with no return.
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Old February 4th, 2016, 02:00 PM
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I'm thinking not.
It does Dave... The slave extends to its maximum and does not retract. Been there, done that, have the t-shirt.
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Other problems when googled are things coming apart in the clutch pedal box on the dash. That is only a few screws to peek in there. Hopefully you find the issue there.
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Old February 4th, 2016, 02:08 PM
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The extra part is a damper. Standard on a Disco.

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A fork failure will give you a rock hard pedal that won't go down.
It definitely didn't go solid. Not sure on the pedal box. Assuming you mean something external to the master, like something mechanical?
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It definitely didn't go solid. Not sure on the pedal box. Assuming you mean something external to the master, like something mechanical?
Exactly, mechanical like a pivot pin.
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Old February 4th, 2016, 02:13 PM
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If you do not see any problems with the master, pull the slave and look. Just a couple of bolts.
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If you do not see any problems with the master, pull the slave and look. Just a couple of bolts.
So I should be able to see if the fork has failed through the hole then?
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So I should be able to see if the fork has failed through the hole then?
Sort of. You can see if the push rod is in too far, which means something in there has failed. You can probably look at the pivot with a little mirror. If something in there has failed, it all needs to come apart anyway.

Just be gentle and try not to pull on the push rod. If it is NOT a fork issue, you don't want to unclip the push rod from the fork. The rod is not attached to the slave, but the boot puts a bit of friction on it.
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^^ a Rover's natural habitat ^^ .
Maybe I should submit this in the RN photo contest! That's just defenders tho...
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Old February 4th, 2016, 04:27 PM
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You missed the fun opportunity to drive it without a clutch.
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Old February 4th, 2016, 05:56 PM
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I couldn't get it into first or I probably would have tried it... So after further inspection it appears I may have the stiff pedal. I thought the pedal was hitting the floor but it's stopping well short. Still seems like it's moving pretty far before that tho (like more than typical pedal play). Really don't want to pull the engine...
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Old February 6th, 2016, 05:05 PM
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So it looks like whoever did the tdi conversion installed a removable transmission crossmember. So the question is, is it easier to remove the transmission or the engine to get to the clutch? I've removed the engine a couple of times in the defender and it's not bad, but since you can't remove the rad support in the rrc it might be harder. I also don't have a transmission jack so...
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Old February 6th, 2016, 05:13 PM
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IMO. If you don't have a lift, it is easier to do the engine.
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