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Old March 1st, 2013, 08:10 PM
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Center of dash round hole

So I'm certainly a newb on defenders. What is this round opening in the middle of the dash? Is there supposed to be a gauge or a clock or something there? This is on an early ex-mod ffr 90.

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Old March 1st, 2013, 08:20 PM
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It's been a while since i had my defender but im gonna go out on a limb and say the clock used to be there.
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Old March 1st, 2013, 09:53 PM
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Yep it was the round clock, some of the older trucks had a square clock.
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Nope, it was the ammeter for the 24 volt generator that was removed from your FFR truck. I put a cigarette lighter dead center in the hole.
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Old March 1st, 2013, 10:24 PM
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I think you have a female version of the Defender
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Old March 1st, 2013, 10:25 PM
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Nope, it was the ammeter for the 24 volt generator that was removed from your FFR truck. I put a cigarette lighter dead center in the hole.
That makes sense. Mine is missing the 24 volt generator, so it would make sense they would want to take that out too. I still have the hand throttle though, it might come in handy for something.

A clock would be nice though.... Maybe I'll look for one of those.

A tach would be even better. Does anyone know if the alternator on these things has the tach signal like a discovery does?

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I think you have a female version of the Defender
I new this was going to cost a lot of money.
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Old March 1st, 2013, 11:53 PM
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It's a clock

Mine came like this (pic) with a round clock there. I suppose LR could have put something else in other versions though, of course.

As for the clock, mine is cracked & not that reliable, so i thought I'd get another. Wow. They're not cheap. I couldn't even find a cheap aftermarket one. For a while there I thought I'd just get some $10 "outdoorsy" watch from Walmart and mount the face in there, but then I'd have to replace batteries or something. So I just epoxied it.
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Old March 2nd, 2013, 04:27 AM
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As was said up there ^^^ the military FFR rovers had the ammeter in there. It ran off of the shunt box (mounted behind the seat bulkhead) so didn't need 90amp cables to be run up to the ammeter, just thin wires (so don't try plumbing your alternator through it, it won't like it!)

Civilian models had a clock (some square, some round, depending on age) or for utility models you could specify up to three guages to go there... oil temp, oil pressure, battery voltage

Military FFRs should have oil temp up on the dash binnacle.
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It was the ammeter originally, but how big is the hole? Could you fit a VDO clock in there?

http://www.egauges.com/vdo_ind.asp?T...ion&PN=370-155
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I got an aluminum faceplate with 3 20A switches to go there.


My source was eBay-user was Landylubber.

Mud UK may have options. As above VDO.

There is a UK billet part maker that does this area with options.


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There are actually three holes there, it's just that the vinyl covering the center hole has been removed for the MOD FFR ammeter.

I put three VDO gauges in mine, boost, oil pressure and EGT.

I'll probably end up moving them to a pod up top as they are a bit hard to see down there depending upon how tall you are.
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Since most vehicle clocks are not good at holding their time accurately and with all the digital clocks in cell phones, GPS units, lap tops, etc., I opted to install a digital outside temperature gauge in my center hole where the clock was located on my NAS D90. I mounted the sensor just below the bumper on the front left corner to avoid picking up heat from the engine.
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Old June 12th, 2013, 12:47 PM
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Id like to bump this thread- are there any good sources for a round clock to fit in the instrument cluster on the dash? I have a fuel gauge and oil temp but the third hole closest to the window is a blank. A clock would be handy.
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VDO has several styles of clocks.

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Yup.... VDO Vision it is.... but then you'll want to swap them all out to match
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VDO Vision. Any of the 2-1/6" gauges will fit those holes and the one in the main instrument cluster. Lots of options.

egauges or summit racing are easy places to buy for people in the US.

http://www.egauges.com/vdo_grou.asp?Series=Vision
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When I took the 24v system out of my Tithonus I installed a MUD console to tidy the dash and give me space for future gauges and switches.
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Old June 12th, 2013, 02:26 PM
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When I took the 24v system out of my Tithonus I installed a MUD console to tidy the dash and give me space for future gauges and switches.
Oh very cool console, had not seen them before. Appreciate you posting that bad boy up there!
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