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Old September 9th, 2011, 04:49 PM
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X20 Leave it alone!

You have a beautiful truck! If you want 4" of lift and 35's go by a jeep.

Ok now that I've got that out of my system and stepped on as many toes as possible...

Genuine bushings... Poly are by no means an upgrade.

If you can't leave it alone 2" OME lift max.

285 x 75 or 255 x 85 Mud terrain tires (depending on if you like skinny) will make the truck look tough without screaming jeep and in most cases you won't need a lift. Plus you will still be able to fit in most garages and it will have good road manners.

Most of the guys here have all done the big tires thing and I'm going out on a limb here but I think unless they were building strictly an off road toy would never do it again especially to such a nice truck.

Tell us more about it. History etc... How many miles are on it?
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Old September 9th, 2011, 06:28 PM
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[QUOTE=DefenderPilot;299427]Oh cool I was going to PM so thanks for posting here. Wow really? I was worried about that, dang it! Are there shocks that I can addjust up and down like my friends LX460? That would be very cool! So 2" lift looks like its pretty good but once I do that no more garages?

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Sorry my mistake. They are 3" Rovertym springs with Bilstein remote reservoir shocks and no it is nothing like your friends lx460. The truck does drive very well however. Not like a shopping cart but it was built to be a hardcore trail rig and that made sense for me in Maine but when it became my daily driver in LA it lost its practicality quickly. Loved the truck and I miss it but Im much happier not having to leave half hour early so I can find street parking
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Old September 9th, 2011, 06:31 PM
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X20 Leave it alone!

You have a beautiful truck! If you want 4" of lift and 35's go by a jeep.

Ok now that I've got that out of my system and stepped on as many toes as possible...

Genuine bushings... Poly are by no means an upgrade.

If you can't leave it alone 2" OME lift max.

285 x 75 or 255 x 85 Mud terrain tires (depending on if you like skinny) will make the truck look tough without screaming jeep and in most cases you won't need a lift. Plus you will still be able to fit in most garages and it will have good road manners.

Most of the guys here have all done the big tires thing and I'm going out on a limb here but I think unless they were building strictly an off road toy would never do it again especially to such a nice truck.

Tell us more about it. History etc... How many miles are on it?
Thanks! I was thinking about a 2" lift but I planned on doing it with all the correct arms and suspension parts. I also wanted to improve articulation as well. It looks like the 285-75 would be a little bigger then stock diameter by 3.7%. Maybe I won't mess with the height then?? I want to learn more about air shocks so I don't use springs and maybe I can raise and lower it. That would be awesome!

What polys did you run that you prefer the genuine ones?

It has 100k miles now and I plan on keeping it for the rest of my time alive. Previous owner left for France for some Art pursuits about 3 years ago so we grabbed it and stored it. I have been saving $$ to get it road worthy and now im ready to start.
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Old September 9th, 2011, 07:15 PM
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OME suspension ride nice but has caused me some issues that have mostly been worked out. There is no point in replacing the rear sway bar bushings as it is pretty useless device. Spend all your money on addressing its maintenance log and just drive the truck for a few months. If you keep it for a year or so then add all that stupid shit and you will miss the stock form..
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Old September 9th, 2011, 09:33 PM
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Lift

I have OME HD lift. Approx 2" and 255/85. If I didn't have the roof Rack it would fit in most parking garages but not all. It drives and handles great with Toyo Open Country MT's. The shocks are OME as well.

With such a nice truck I wouldn't do much more than the 2" lift. It helps keep it looking almost stock and doesn't mess with the ride and handling.

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Old September 10th, 2011, 09:13 AM
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George, hope you don't mind another suggestion. If money is not a problem for you, then do whatever to that truck you like. If, however you do have to be concerned with a budget then your best bet is to keep that truck exactly the way it is and drive it. At some point you are going to realize one of three things; 1)you enjoy the D90 primarly for street driving and an occasional trail or two. 2) The D90 appeal will wear off and you want something different. 3) You really want to get into some serious off-roading ( or look that way).

In all of the 3 possibilities you are better off leaving that truck alone. Why? Because it's value is highest as it is right now. If you really want to start modifying a Defender ( Tdi, suspension, drivetrain,etc) you would be better off selling the one you have and buying one for a lot less that needs work done anyway.

As for the poly bushings, they offer some nice advantages but at a cost. Once again, drive the truck and see what needs improvement. I really have to disagree with the comment regarding the sway bar. On a coil suspension vehicle, the sway bar is integral to stability. Even more important as the center of gravity gets higher.
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Old September 10th, 2011, 10:33 AM
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George,

If you want Poly for certain areas of the 90 ( i.e you will not change your radius arms bushings, or use the ones provided with your new shocks ) call Justin at www.lucky8llc.com, I 've recently found out he sells those things individually, so could save few pesos.

As my $ .02, I have my 110 totally stock suspension wise , my 90 has RTE 3" with Terrafirma Remote shocks, cranked arms..etc... and if have never driven one like such ( as many suggested ) , borrow a friends or a members here for a spin, NIGHT and DAY

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Old September 10th, 2011, 02:35 PM
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George, hope you don't mind another suggestion. If money is not a problem for you, then do whatever to that truck you like. If, however you do have to be concerned with a budget then your best bet is to keep that truck exactly the way it is and drive it. At some point you are going to realize one of three things; 1)you enjoy the D90 primarly for street driving and an occasional trail or two. 2) The D90 appeal will wear off and you want something different. 3) You really want to get into some serious off-roading ( or look that way).

In all of the 3 possibilities you are better off leaving that truck alone. Why? Because it's value is highest as it is right now. If you really want to start modifying a Defender ( Tdi, suspension, drivetrain,etc) you would be better off selling the one you have and buying one for a lot less that needs work done anyway.

As for the poly bushings, they offer some nice advantages but at a cost. Once again, drive the truck and see what needs improvement. I really have to disagree with the comment regarding the sway bar. On a coil suspension vehicle, the sway bar is integral to stability. Even more important as the center of gravity gets higher.
Well after my initial gun hoe excitement has now come down and using my sense and suggestions coming into play from you members I will stick with the stock truck look I guess. I think I will atleast do the 285-75-16 tires for a little more muscular look maybe? Since this is going to be a daily driver I am worried about the ride height issues in garages. I LOVE to improve stuff when it comes to cars or trucks. It such a thrill when I make things better! Yes I do have a budget and I have spent about 2g so far of it. What now I REALLY think I need to do is get the mechanical sorted out and would love some help figuring it out?? I want to get that part 100% before moving to mods if any.

So guys I got my truck back from shop and changed Transmission oil filter and the other parts to do the job correctly. The cross member was very hard to come off due to corrosion these Defenders all to commonly have. The transmission shifts amazing with the Red Line D4 in it now. The Diff oils were changed to Shock Proof and was the transfer case. Change the front condenser fan as well but the bolts were rust and we had to cut them. Here are a few issues I need to sort out next.

I put the AC on and at some point water was dripping on the passenger sides. I noticed more when I turned it off to park. Glad my rubber mats caught it all. Any thoughts on this anyone?

I also have no interior lights??? My gauges don't light up when the head lights are and even the toggle switch to the lower left didn't do anything? Also, when I open the door no lights turn on for me to see when I get in. I have to turn them on manual? I think when the switch is placed in the center they should come on when I open the doors but they are just turn on dim when I put it in the center?

I have oil leaks coming from the steering box? We cleaned the whole engines so will see if it's the box or lines but I think it's the box?

Also we think the oil that is leak from the top of the engine might be from the heads and not valve covers because it starts right below were the heads and block meet? Do orignal head gaskets go bad in this way?

Thanks for the help! George

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George,

If you want Poly for certain areas of the 90 ( i.e you will not change your radius arms bushings, or use the ones provided with your new shocks ) call Justin at www.lucky8llc.com, I 've recently found out he sells those things individually, so could save few pesos.

As my $ .02, I have my 110 totally stock suspension wise , my 90 has RTE 3" with Terrafirma Remote shocks, cranked arms..etc... and if have never driven one like such ( as many suggested ) , borrow a friends or a members here for a spin, NIGHT and DAY

Good luck with the decision
Yea those guys have a lot of stuff! When I do the poly im going with the Superpro and not Polybush. Superpro are really among the best after my reasearching. If you have time check out the links and info I posted and you can see how they are made.

Yea it would be cool to feel one lifted but since I am going to daily uses it, I don't think it will be wise for me. Even the 2" didn't look like much but I do plan on adding a roof rack like the Hannibal eventually which is more low profile.

------ Follow up post added September 10th, 2011 01:32 PM ------

Well figure out why the gauge didn't light up, it was the fuse it was melted. I replaced and it worked?
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Old September 19th, 2011, 09:17 PM
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Well have been working on the Defender on and off its been a nice learning experience so far. So my goals now are to making a super nice daily driver.

I replaced fuses that were corroded. Do Defenders some time have issues with that area? Not sure if I can run any better types like stainless steel but the new ones are galvanized at least which I believe the old ones were also.

Since I have a 1997 it also has the composite gasket so not sure why its leaking oil? This must be something they all have over time I guess? I was thinking about improving the heads for some extra flow if I do end up taking them off. I was going to use ARP bolts which might help with the leaks in the future?

My left brake light housing is not good and broke where the bulp would fit into. I can get some new ones all around but im going to contact ECR for LEDS.

Now im going to go back out and install the OME Steering Damper.
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Old September 23rd, 2011, 06:20 PM
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Well guys got more stuff done! The OME dampener made a good difference. My stock rubber on the dampener was junk so these new ones made it much tighter. Down the road when I do the Super Pro bushes I will replace the rubber ones on the dampener.

I also found some Marine Grade Fuses. I anyone is interested in getting some and I can send you a link. I will replace all of them with these. They are tin coated over copper and should last a long time.

I also changed my tires to 285/75/16. Wow the truck looks so much cooler! Other then a slight rub on a full left lock they were well worth it other wise. My tires were dated from 1997 haha so it rides like a new Defender now! Take a look!

I also had the alliment done but the tech said you can't adjust camber/caster front or rear? I was thinking of adding the correct parts to adjust them in the future.

Now im working on how to fix the clattering lifter/rocker noise inherent with all rover v8 engines after 75-100k miles to due premature. I have researched it and with the uprated parts this can be fixed better then new.

So guys do you hear the clattering valve train every time you drive off from a stop?
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...tech said you can't adjust camber/caster front or rear? I was thinking of adding the correct parts to adjust them in the future.
Pray tell, what would be the correct parts?

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Old September 23rd, 2011, 10:53 PM
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If your not lifting the truck why would you need to adjust the caster?
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Old September 25th, 2011, 11:26 AM
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So guys do you hear the clattering valve train every time you drive off from a stop?
No this is not normal. The "normal" one is on start up until oil starts circulating.

I'd check your timing for this noise. Maybe too far advanced? I'm no expert on this stuff so could be way off.
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I also had the alliment done but the tech said you can't adjust camber/caster front or rear? I was thinking of adding the correct parts to adjust them in the future.

Now im working on how to fix the clattering lifter/rocker noise inherent with all rover v8 engines after 75-100k miles to due premature. I have researched it and with the uprated parts this can be fixed better then new.

So guys do you hear the clattering valve train every time you drive off from a stop?
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No this is not normal. The "normal" one is on start up until oil starts circulating.

I'd check your timing for this noise. Maybe too far advanced? I'm no expert on this stuff so could be way off.
It's a 97, so it's all-electronic GEMS. No timing to adjust as far as I know.

Is it only after you come to a stop and then take off again? Could it be coming from the transmission and not the engine? The 4HP22 tranny makes a kind of rubbing/clattering noise when the bands start getting loose inside. Does it do it if you very gently accelerate off the line?

What "uprated parts" do you plan on putting in the 4.0?
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Old September 25th, 2011, 02:16 PM
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Pray tell, what would be the correct parts?

Nice boots.
I saw some nice stuff from X-Eng and Terrafirma that will are adjustable to correct and fine tune the aliment.

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If your not lifting the truck why would you need to adjust the caster?
I was off on specs so I wanted to have everything to factory.

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It's a 97, so it's all-electronic GEMS. No timing to adjust as far as I know.

Is it only after you come to a stop and then take off again? Could it be coming from the transmission and not the engine? The 4HP22 tranny makes a kind of rubbing/clattering noise when the bands start getting loose inside. Does it do it if you very gently accelerate off the line?

What "uprated parts" do you plan on putting in the 4.0?

Yea its not the timing ping and it is GEMS so that's handled by the ECU. It's not the transmission from what I can see. It comes from rockers/lifters. When I free rev it in neutral it sounds fine. Once I put it in D and hold the brake and apply throttle you can hear the clattering. In the book "How To Power Tune a Rover V8" By Des Hamil, he mentions that this is a very common issue with the rover v8 rockers and lifters due to bleed down of the lifter and wear of the soft metal on the rockers. I also read information from the RPi's web site about it as well.

So here is the fun part, upgrading! I emailed Realsteal inthe UK about there Merlin F-85 heads. They come with a much better head flow design and higher quality valves, springs and guides. The valves are bigger then stock and you can add a higher lift cam to them as well. I will be adding also Iskenderian parts like their roller rockers, cams, and anti pump lifters. I was also going to use ARP head studs which will do a better job with the composite gasket and keep oil from seeping from it. Then add some Todoco headers to the mix to finish it with a Maganaflow Exhaust. I did want some Try-Y headers but didn't find any here in the US only in Australia from Gennie or Pacesetter exhausts and they are very expensive for just headers shipped.

I found some dynos of those heads install with some good torque cams on a 4.6L and they made 326lbs with over 300lbs from 2000 RPM. Very nice I would say so im hoping for similar out my 4.0L? Im also going to add the Tornado Chip I already have with the revised NAS tune so the ecu will be able to learn from all the changes. Once I have everything complete I hope before the New Year, I will head to the dyno and see what im making and where. I like the idea of a 4.0L and don't want to ever go larger but improve the efficiency of the engine instead.

So that's my plan after I finish a few things Im sorting out now in other areas first guys! This should be great!

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Nice truck!

Thanks! Im getting there try to have something as nice as you guys have.

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Pray tell, what would be the correct parts?

Nice boots.
Sorry not that "will" be adjustable but that are.
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Old September 26th, 2011, 03:24 AM
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That is my old truck. It had 2" of lift and 35" tires and I sold it primarily because I couldnt fit into any damn parking garages in LA. If you want to drive around endlessly looking for street parking lift it. If not leave it alone. Oh and by the way who gets given a D90 by their Dad? Lucky bastard.

Its obvious I dont own the truck anymore because its shiny. Javier if you dont offroad that thing Ill be very disappointed.
That is how I got mine or rather will, he got it as a valentines day gift from my mother and we have been builing it up years and it will be left to me. But yeah I vote keep as stock, I only changed mine when things started going out, replacing with something better.
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