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Old April 29th, 2015, 07:28 AM
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Hi All,

I am looking to upgrade the standard brakes on my 110DC, any suggestions?

Vehicle is always fully loaded with roof top tent and all the camping gear plus 40 litres of water and and additional 40 litres of fuel.

Plans are to have the ECU remapped for more power, but would like to upgrade the brakes first to allow for this?

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Old April 29th, 2015, 07:38 AM
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Do you have solid or vented front disc brakes? Is the rear disc or drum?
As to the ECU remap, the amount of gained horsepower will not effect your ability to brake, even with stock. Like maybe two or three extra squirrelpower.
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Old April 29th, 2015, 11:59 AM
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Hi All, I am looking to upgrade the standard brakes on my 110DC, any suggestions? Vehicle is always fully loaded with roof top tent and all the camping gear plus 40 litres of water and and additional 40 litres of fuel. Plans are to have the ECU remapped for more power, but would like to upgrade the brakes first to allow for this? Cheers G
try ebc red or green pads to start with.
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Old April 29th, 2015, 12:10 PM
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I've tried several different approaches to this...the last was using EBC. It still won't brake like a modern vehicle. I going with a brick on a rope next
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I've tried several different approaches to this...the last was using EBC. It still won't brake like a modern vehicle. I going with a brick on a rope next
the OP has a puma
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Old April 29th, 2015, 12:17 PM
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ah...lol. well there you have it...a more modern ride. My government like it when I drive "the less safe" vehicle.
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Old April 29th, 2015, 12:57 PM
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ah...lol. well there you have it...a more modern ride. My government like it when I drive "the less safe" vehicle.
I don't think PUMA brakes are any different to what would be in NAS truck.

There are limits on what can fit in a 16" rim and what is in a Defender is pretty damn good. My 90 stops as well as any modern vehicle. No problem locking up all 4 at any speed. In fact, I prefer the 90 over modern vehicles as the newer ones tend to be over boosted making modulation difficult.

On a heavy 110, you are probably stretched. The only bigger brakes I've seen are insanely expensive and require larger wheels.
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I don't think PUMA brakes are any different to what would be in NAS truck.

There are limits on what can fit in a 16" rim and what is in a Defender is pretty damn good. My 90 stops as well as any modern vehicle. No problem locking up all 4 at any speed. In fact, I prefer the 90 over modern vehicles as the newer ones tend to be over boosted making modulation difficult.

On a heavy 110, you are probably stretched. The only bigger brakes I've seen are insanely expensive and require larger wheels.

I would think that the ABS, Traction Control, wheel speed sensors, brembo rotors from factory, and 4 piston calipers would be different than a NAS rig.
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You'd think they'd be much different, but they're about the same.
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I've tried several different approaches to this...the last was using EBC. It still won't brake like a modern vehicle. I going with a brick on a rope next
You must have a problem with your brakes. I can lock mine up on the highway.
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Old April 29th, 2015, 06:45 PM
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No they stop fine, like you'd expect I guess...they just don't "feel" right. The pads have been changed three times, the booster, steel flex line extensions...it's just not a firm pedal like in "modern" vehicles. I have full confidence in it's ability to stop, even while trailering a load.
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I would think that the ABS, Traction Control, wheel speed sensors, brembo rotors from factory, and 4 piston calipers would be different than a NAS rig.
Pretty sure they use the same size 4 piston, 46 mm calipers and rotors on current trucks as on the NAS trucks. If they were bigger, people would be all over putting them on earlier trucks.
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Pretty sure they use the same size 4 piston, 46 mm calipers and rotors on current trucks as on the NAS trucks. If they were bigger, people would be all over putting them on earlier trucks.
I might be thinking of non vented single piston earlier brakes.
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From what I can see the part numbers are unchanged from 1994 model year to current for calipers. All lockheed, 46 mm, 4 piston.
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I might be thinking of non vented single piston earlier brakes.
On a Defender front??? I've never seen fronts that are not 4 piston. There are smaller 41 mm pistons, but that is about it. All rears are 2 pistons.

Never seen a 1 piston (floating caliper) on a Land Rover.
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On a Defender front??? I've never seen fronts that are not 4 piston. There are smaller 41 mm pistons, but that is about it. All rears are 2 pistons. Never seen a 1 piston (floating caliper) on a Land Rover.
thanks for the research. I remember some upgrades since 93 on the pads but don't have the Parts in front of me. I know that the rear calipers have changed over the years and there is a difference between vented and non vented on the front. Thank you for clarifying it.
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