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Old March 6th, 2012, 04:35 AM
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Brake line kits

I see there are Automec brake line kits available in the UK made with copper alloy. Anyone gave experience with those? Are the kits handed?
What's the copper alloy they use? How does it compare with stainless for longevity and function?
I'm trying to keep costs down wherever it makes sense-and stainless is very expensive.
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Old March 6th, 2012, 07:05 AM
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I have these on my 83 D110, took them off during my rebuild, cleaned them up and they look brand new.
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Old March 7th, 2012, 03:34 AM
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Thanks am going to try and get one while in UK if RHD kits aren't different of course!
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Old March 7th, 2012, 05:22 AM
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I don't know why the copper kits are legal in the UK, I'm pretty sure they're not in the US. Copper is so soft that a bump or hit could disable your brakes. I also hate the way they look on the truck, it looks like plumbing, often hand-bent and wavy.
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Old March 7th, 2012, 05:45 AM
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If they are pure copper you definitely don't want to use it as it vibration hardens and becomes brittle. But I think most are copper/nickle which is DOT approved.
I wouldn't bother ordering something like that from the UK, Fedhill here in the US has everything you need to make your own.
http://www.fedhillusa.com/
I use an OTC ISO bubble flare kit and brake line pliers like these: http://www.fedhillusa.com/
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I use an OTC ISO bubble flare kit
Bubble flare, not inverted?
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Rover uses what they call a DIN flare.

Just bought the Eastwoods bench tool. Will pay for itself on just the first job.
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I thought stainless steel brake line kits weren't that expensive. I wouldn't cut cost on brake related stuff.
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Rover uses what they call a DIN flare.

Just bought the Eastwoods bench tool. Will pay for itself on just the first job.

Thanks. I'll look into Eastwoods.


Don't know why people get so excited about SS. IMO, it's a PITA to work with and offers little value.
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Chris,

This is a better option. http://www.fedhillusa.com/ you can get them from Alan at Cityside as well. Easy to flare, can bend with your fingers and they don't rust! Also DOT approved
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I'm curious to learn more in this area. All those Fedhill links go to their main page and aren't product specific. Any part numbers with the above mentioned endorsements would be helpful. Thanks
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Fedhill only sells the cupronickel pipes. These come in the standard 3/16ths/4.75mm and other sizes. They also sell the nuts. Those come in a wide variety of sizes. I forget whether the Rover ones are 10mm or 3/8ths-24.
Fedhill also has a bench tool. It is more expensive than the eastwood's tool. If you need to make flares other than 3/16ths/4.75mm, it will cost you $40 per die. Each die only does one type of flare so if you want both SAE and DIN you must pay $80. Looks like it does nice flares. They will rent you one if you fork over the full price as security.

Eastwood's tool is 199 plus free shipping on their ebay store. It comes with double ended dies that do both SAE and DIN in 3/16"/4.75mm, 1/4", 5/16" and 3/8"
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Hey Bill,

Thanks for the follow up post. I love working with the Cunifer brake lines. You don't need the expensive tool kit. I got mine from Eastwood and you can also rent them. You need 3/16 brake line with 10 mm fittings. You will love working with it. You can bend the little lines on the calipers with your hands

Bill,

Did you ever get a chance to dig out the old bulkhead? I still want it.

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Eastwood tool on Ebay is item #370658370252. Does not come up in regular search.
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