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Old November 7th, 2011, 02:14 PM
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Borla Exhaust Issues / Problem / Hole

So, I've been having some chatter recently that I've attributed to a catalytic converter on its way out. I got under my truck yesterday to check out my system and see how old my cats were, and figured I'd check out the rest of the system downstream from there.

I got to the Borla, and recalled Trevor stating I had a pinhole on the top side of my Borla exhaust last year when I sent my truck to him to be looked over. I didn't see it at the time last year (didn't have good light back then I suppose), but now the hole is quarter-sized and growing. I just called Borla, which has a million mile warranty on their products for manufacturing defects, and Greg over there told me to shoot him some photos of the issue, as he said the ones made for our trucks are known to be bullet proof.

-There's no fluid that I can see that has been sitting up there, nor do I see a way for brake fluid or similar to get there.
-The corrosion has been following the lettering of the "Borla" stamping. The "a" is basically all gone, as is the "l" and now you can see the outline of the "o" and "r" are starting to be eaten away as well.
-No signs of impact

-Any idea what could have caused this?
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Old November 7th, 2011, 02:20 PM
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Looks like they are sending you a new exhaust, whats up with all those wires hanging down?
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Old November 7th, 2011, 02:29 PM
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whats up with all those wires hanging down?
Don't know, but it looks like that behind my TV, too.
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Old November 7th, 2011, 03:13 PM
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Heat combined with some kind of solution like road salt maybe?
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Old November 7th, 2011, 03:15 PM
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I wonder if it has anything to do with you following salt trucks. The term stainless steel really is a misnomer. Stainless steel can have many grades (iron removed) and can easily stain. I wonder what grade the borla is and what was left stuck to it for long periods of time.

The newest borla for the 90 has a slightly different tip and different writing. Would be nice if they give you one. I wonder if they will pull some crap about you not being the original owner.
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Old November 7th, 2011, 03:29 PM
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Josh,

I have welded entire exhausts out of 400 series martensitic stainless for cars driven daily in Chicago salt for 4 years. The outside - even the weld sections, which were either 18-8 wire or fusion weld, look nothing like that....they are dark but absolutely no corrosion.

I assume that raised/stamped lettering rusts out first because it is the thinnest section of the exhaust.

I hate to say it, but regardless of what Borla says about its exhausts being "300" series or whatever, I honestly can't believe it. I've never seen that level of corrosion even in 303/304 stainless submerged and rope-grounded in the atlantic ocean.

If that's a Borla exhaust from the 90's or early 2000's, I have to guess that the material used was some sort of aluminized carbon steel, not stainless. Despite what the marketing folks at Borla say now, their older exhausts came in both Aluminized carbon steel and Stainless, and stainless never looks like that.

Perhaps you got "new old stock".
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I wonder if it has anything to do with you following salt trucks.
HAHA, well this problem was noted back in the Fall of last year.

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what was left stuck to it for long periods of time.
It almost looks like that, but it's following the stamping of the "Borla" name, so I'm not sure it's anything that has sat on top of there (dripping) or if it has to do with something else.

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I wonder if they will pull some crap about you not being the original owner.
Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out how to get around the original owner part, but he acted like the original receipt part was the most important part of the information to be sent to him right now.

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I assume that raised/stamped lettering rusts out first because it is the thinnest section of the exhaust.
I think you're dead on, as that's what I was thinking with regard to their name stamping. You'll see that it starts at the sharp corners of the stamped letter (follows the outside edge of the "r") and then works inward from there. The edges of the letters are likely the thinnest parts of the stamp.
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Road salt is way different from ocean water.
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If they don't give you one for free will you still go borla?
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So, I've been having some chatter recently that I've attributed to a catalytic converter on its way out. I got under my truck yesterday to check out my system and see how old my cats were, and figured I'd check out the rest of the system downstream from there.

I got to the Borla, and recalled Trevor stating I had a pinhole on the top side of my Borla exhaust last year when I sent my truck to him to be looked over. I didn't see it at the time last year (didn't have good light back then I suppose), but now the hole is quarter-sized and growing. I just called Borla, which has a million mile warranty on their products for manufacturing defects, and Greg over there told me to shoot him some photos of the issue, as he said the ones made for our trucks are known to be bullet proof.

-There's no fluid that I can see that has been sitting up there, nor do I see a way for brake fluid or similar to get there.
-The corrosion has been following the lettering of the "Borla" stamping. The "a" is basically all gone, as is the "l" and now you can see the outline of the "o" and "r" are starting to be eaten away as well.
-No signs of impact

-Any idea what could have caused this?
This is Greg with Borla. Please call me at 805-246-6062 so we can get your warranty going.

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This is Greg with Borla. Please call me at 805-246-6062 so we can get your warranty going.

Thanks
Borla's are the best. I put one on my D90 even though the stock exhaust was fine.
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This is Greg with Borla. Please call me at 805-246-6062 so we can get your warranty going.

Thanks

How's that for customer service? Love my Borla and get compliments all the time on the sound.
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How's that for customer service? Love my Borla and get compliments all the time on the sound.
Ditto... love my Borla
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I love my Borla . Now I see the customer service and I couldn't be happier. Now that I live in CA I don't think I have to worry about it rusting. I see the 805 exchange they must be near me here in Ventura.
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Old November 17th, 2011, 11:18 PM
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Love my Borla minus the horrendous fit to the stock y-pipe.
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Dear Mr Borla,
Seems like a D-90.com group buy discount would be a great way to restore the good Borla name...
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Dear Mr Borla,
Seems like a D-90.com group buy discount would be a great way to restore the good Borla name...
not sure he needs to restore the Borla name after showing what great customer service he's willing to provide. wish more companies were like that.
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